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Old 05-31-2017 | 07:04 AM
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I think you have to look at the lag involved from the larger bonus structure announcement. Roughly a 4 week delay from interview to class date, and the new first year bonus pay out was just announced at the beginning of this month. Give it a week for the early crowd to put in interview requests, which means that you probably won't see the effect until mid June or even July class numbers.
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Old 05-31-2017 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by T28driver
I think you have to look at the lag involved from the larger bonus structure announcement. Roughly a 4 week delay from interview to class date, and the new first year bonus pay out was just announced at the beginning of this month. Give it a week for the early crowd to put in interview requests, which means that you probably won't see the effect until mid June or even July class numbers.
If there's no movement and if the upgrade stays over 4 years I don't see the bonus making much of a difference. Remember if someone can upgrade fast and get at a major in 4 years at a quick upgrade company it's better then a bonus and waiting 4 years to upgrade with an additional 2 years to get the PIC time to get on with a Legacy.
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Old 05-31-2017 | 06:12 PM
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Default All Hail Billyho, Sultan of gifs

Billyho:

1) your gif game is incredible. Respect. I shamelessly stole the Charlie Murphy "holla atcha boy" and have been using it without regret. Today I sent it to the scrap metal broker I sell a couple thousand tons of metal through each month.

2) see above. I'm an executive that's an accomplished GA/corporate/airshow pilot who's been dreaming of going to the airlines for YEARS, but just couldn't quite make it work. The money is good enough, Air Wisconsin has an amazing reputation as far as benefits, training, and culture, and it jumped to the top of my list as a result. It's also a place where people can actually be happy past 3-4 years (a friend of mine has been there 19 with no regrets). I grew up in the industry (Southwest was my father's 6th airline) and I know that as good as it is now, we're one catastrophe away from a hiring freeze.

The 4+ year upgrade gets shorter with additional hiring. Air Wisconsin wasn't on my map until the new bonuses, and most of the people I interviewed with were the same way. You can't hire an airline pilot overnight (or even in a two weeks) due to the requirements for background checks etc. I'm optimistic. It's also a place I look forward to working at, rather than somewhere I'm putting up with for a fast upgrade time. I'm betting there are a lot of other pilots out there with the same attitude.
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Old 05-31-2017 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by T28driver
Billyho:

1) your gif game is incredible. Respect. I shamelessly stole the Charlie Murphy "holla atcha boy" and have been using it without regret. Today I sent it to the scrap metal broker I sell a couple thousand tons of metal through each month.

2) see above. I'm an executive that's an accomplished GA/corporate/airshow pilot who's been dreaming of going to the airlines for YEARS, but just couldn't quite make it work. The money is good enough, Air Wisconsin has an amazing reputation as far as benefits, training, and culture, and it jumped to the top of my list as a result. It's also a place where people can actually be happy past 3-4 years (a friend of mine has been there 19 with no regrets). I grew up in the industry (Southwest was my father's 6th airline) and I know that as good as it is now, we're one catastrophe away from a hiring freeze.

The 4+ year upgrade gets shorter with additional hiring. Air Wisconsin wasn't on my map until the new bonuses, and most of the people I interviewed with were the same way. You can't hire an airline pilot overnight (or even in a two weeks) due to the requirements for background checks etc. I'm optimistic. It's also a place I look forward to working at, rather than somewhere I'm putting up with for a fast upgrade time. I'm betting there are a lot of other pilots out there with the same attitude.
That's what I told myself when I got hired before I left for another regional. Just make sure to call all your friends to come over too if you want movement. You can even split the bonus.
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Old 05-31-2017 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by whooooooocares
Does anyone have any insight of when ALL these new hires are going to start class. It would be great if we finally upgraded the guys that got awarded captain last year.
Not sure this helps but I'm in the June 12th class. not sure how many will be joining me
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Old 05-31-2017 | 08:25 PM
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It wasn't that long ago Piedmont couldn't staff their new 145s. It took them a painfully long time to get the operation up and running, plus triple time pay, junior mans galore, and a flow agreement for the BillyHoes of the industry to show up to work. Side story: about a month back commuting to work in my awac captain attire had a plain clothed fellow ahead of me as we deplane in Philly ask who I'm with. Though the badge says Air Wisconsin maybe he's just a regular Joe making small talk. But he's in fact former Piedmont who flowed to AA. The best part was when he asked when I'd upgrade. I thought the 4 bars gave it away as clearly as the red badge stating my employment. Then he shoveled off in his acid wash jeans tucked into his boots. I actually wondered if it was Billy. We need more T28driver types at awac and luckily that's who we generally attract. I certainly didn't come here to tolerate the place for a few years like I'm picking trash roadside doing community service. I've enjoyed it, have made good money while at a regional, and have fun watching the 401k grow while I decide where the next best fit is. The bonuses and United flying is all brand new and it will take a period to get caught up. Prex, I believe you were hired and left well before any bonuses and United were in the picture. Guys bailed left and right back then and I can't say I blame them. But the general vibe lately are people are sticking around rather than move laterally for worse contracts, healthcare, ect ect...
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Old 06-01-2017 | 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted by pitchtrim
It wasn't that long ago Piedmont couldn't staff their new 145s. It took them a painfully long time to get the operation up and running, plus triple time pay, junior mans galore, and a flow agreement for the BillyHoes of the industry to show up to work. Side story: about a month back commuting to work in my awac captain attire had a plain clothed fellow ahead of me as we deplane in Philly ask who I'm with. Though the badge says Air Wisconsin maybe he's just a regular Joe making small talk. But he's in fact former Piedmont who flowed to AA. The best part was when he asked when I'd upgrade. I thought the 4 bars gave it away as clearly as the red badge stating my employment. Then he shoveled off in his acid wash jeans tucked into his boots. I actually wondered if it was Billy. We need more T28driver types at awac and luckily that's who we generally attract. I certainly didn't come here to tolerate the place for a few years like I'm picking trash roadside doing community service. I've enjoyed it, have made good money while at a regional, and have fun watching the 401k grow while I decide where the next best fit is. The bonuses and United flying is all brand new and it will take a period to get caught up. Prex, I believe you were hired and left well before any bonuses and United were in the picture. Guys bailed left and right back then and I can't say I blame them. But the general vibe lately are people are sticking around rather than move laterally for worse contracts, healthcare, ect ect...
Boots? LOL, never. I'm more of a Adidas Superstars wearing kinda dude. hahahahah
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Old 06-01-2017 | 01:53 AM
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Originally Posted by T28driver
Billyho:

1) your gif game is incredible. Respect. I shamelessly stole the Charlie Murphy "holla atcha boy" and have been using it without regret. Today I sent it to the scrap metal broker I sell a couple thousand tons of metal through each month.

2) see above. I'm an executive that's an accomplished GA/corporate/airshow pilot who's been dreaming of going to the airlines for YEARS, but just couldn't quite make it work. The money is good enough, Air Wisconsin has an amazing reputation as far as benefits, training, and culture, and it jumped to the top of my list as a result. It's also a place where people can actually be happy past 3-4 years (a friend of mine has been there 19 with no regrets). I grew up in the industry (Southwest was my father's 6th airline) and I know that as good as it is now, we're one catastrophe away from a hiring freeze.

The 4+ year upgrade gets shorter with additional hiring. Air Wisconsin wasn't on my map until the new bonuses, and most of the people I interviewed with were the same way. You can't hire an airline pilot overnight (or even in a two weeks) due to the requirements for background checks etc. I'm optimistic. It's also a place I look forward to working at, rather than somewhere I'm putting up with for a fast upgrade time. I'm betting there are a lot of other pilots out there with the same attitude.
Glad it has worked out for you. Enjoy. AWAC is a great company.
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Old 06-01-2017 | 09:23 AM
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I interviewed last week in PHL. Really impressive group and I accepted a class date for 6/25. Have a few questions for people already in ATW. What do I need to pack and what did you pack that wasn’t needed? Also can I get by without brining my car?
A few pages back I saw a question about the bonus structure and repayment. Recruiter explained that it is a prorated repayment if you leave in less than 24 months from start of class. This was my third regional interview and all had some type of repayment for their sign on bonus.
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Old 06-01-2017 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyerOSU
I interviewed last week in PHL. Really impressive group and I accepted a class date for 6/25. Have a few questions for people already in ATW. What do I need to pack and what did you pack that wasn’t needed? Also can I get by without brining my car?

A few pages back I saw a question about the bonus structure and repayment. Recruiter explained that it is a prorated repayment if you leave in less than 24 months from start of class. This was my third regional interview and all had some type of repayment for their sign on bonus.
Since you posted this in both threads, I asked you in both threads.

Did you get offers on the other two interviews and chose AW? Or are they the only ones that offered? Also, did any of the others ask if you interviewed anywhere else?
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