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07-31-2014 | 06:57 PM
#671
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Yeah they want you guys to wait til the end of 2015 after all the other ones are done and about the same time your contract is up so they can save that money .Why paint 71 planes that you don't plan on keeping? Better wake up son.
07-31-2014 | 07:01 PM
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You bring up a good point. In recurrent, a couple months ago, we were talking about the iPad program. They were talking about how each plane was going to have 2 of them, but that the CAs was going to be hotwired directly into one of the BUSSES as to be charging automatically. The cost was estimated at $6,000 a plane. Obviously this hasn't happened yet, but if it does it seems pointless to go through with this if you know your not going to be around come 2017. Also the entire fleet getting the leather seat covers is definitely costing money as well. Again why do this for only a few years?
Finally while there may, or may not be GROWTH (ie new planes), but there is serious serious MOVEMENT. I have been here 14 months and have moved up 108 spots. Im less than 200 from an upgrade right now and there have been 350 pilots hired below me. Talk about insane. This fall will be very very interesting. We have been losing between 15-20 or so this summer each month, but after the summer winds down. All I will say is its going to be fun to watch.
Finally while there may, or may not be GROWTH (ie new planes), but there is serious serious MOVEMENT. I have been here 14 months and have moved up 108 spots. Im less than 200 from an upgrade right now and there have been 350 pilots hired below me. Talk about insane. This fall will be very very interesting. We have been losing between 15-20 or so this summer each month, but after the summer winds down. All I will say is its going to be fun to watch.
CAT II? Really very little in real dollars for the company, since we all have to go to the sim every year anyway. What's an extra hour or two for two pilots really cost? Not as much as one might think.
iPads? At $6000 per station/$12,000 per aircraft times 71 airframes, that only adds up to $852,000. AWAC earns more than that in 1 week, post operational profit at that!
The website? Contracted out to the local community college.
Don't be fooled by cost numbers that when compared to one's personal financial $'s, are enormous, but when presented against the numbers in a multi-million dollar corporation are a drop in the bucket.
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07-31-2014 | 07:03 PM
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If you knew who I was, you'd know I'm probably more awake than 90% of the pilot group. Trust me, we are probably on the same side of this.
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08-01-2014 | 04:55 AM
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Not trying to shoot down the good feelings here, but all the things people around here talk about that MUST add up to a longer contract and new/more flying cost very little to AWAC. Leather seats? A: they had to be replaced anyway and B: if Airways decided that the seats were too ratty and said 'do this or we reduce your flying because the product stinks', guess what they are going to do.
CAT II? Really very little in real dollars for the company, since we all have to go to the sim every year anyway. What's an extra hour or two for two pilots really cost? Not as much as one might think.
iPads? At $6000 per station/$12,000 per aircraft times 71 airframes, that only adds up to $852,000. AWAC earns more than that in 1 week, post operational profit at that!
The website? Contracted out to the local community college.
Don't be fooled by cost numbers that when compared to one's personal financial $'s, are enormous, but when presented against the numbers in a multi-million dollar corporation are a drop in the bucket.
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CAT II? Really very little in real dollars for the company, since we all have to go to the sim every year anyway. What's an extra hour or two for two pilots really cost? Not as much as one might think.
iPads? At $6000 per station/$12,000 per aircraft times 71 airframes, that only adds up to $852,000. AWAC earns more than that in 1 week, post operational profit at that!
The website? Contracted out to the local community college.
Don't be fooled by cost numbers that when compared to one's personal financial $'s, are enormous, but when presented against the numbers in a multi-million dollar corporation are a drop in the bucket.
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Leather seats? I would be willing to bet that directive came straight from Airways as a not so subtle suggestion to replace these things...now. It wasn't that long ago that they basically did the same thing to Mesa.
The paint situation is becoming very interesting. The majority of our airplanes look like absolute crap. If the new American doesn't care enough to want to paint these things, what does that tell you? It tells me that they don't want to spend the money on a short term solution. I guess time will tell though.
08-04-2014 | 10:03 PM
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