Don't feed the troll. It starts from zero in arbitration.

 

The pit of misery, Dilly Dilly!

 

Just an FYI, nobody at UAL/CAL moved more than 5% in relative seniority, even with United having a big advantage or WB planes (777 and 747). That's why our CAL 06 hires are paired with some UAL 98 hires, etc. The bottom 1/3 of the CAL list was hired after virtually the entire UAL list.

That was with Longevity weighted as 35%. I'd be shocked to find out your 50% mid seniority pilots to be more than 10% apart in the final award.

 

[QUOTE=svergin;2515025]Just an FYI, nobody at UAL/CAL moved more than 5% in relative seniority, even with United having a big advantage or WB planes (777 and 747). That's why our CAL 06 hires are paired with some UAL 98 hires, etc. The bottom 1/3 of the CAL list was hired after virtually the entire UAL list.

I know, I know... UAL and CAL were similar companies, with equal footing. That’s why they were merged that way... VX and AS are not... The arbiter even made this distinction. Ask your merger committee. We didn’t get a deal because your merger committee could never sign off on the logical outcome off this SLI...( although the reality finally seemed to be sinking in) Pure and simple, it has to be awarded in arbitration.

Believe what you want... I am a liar... I am an idiot. We are starting at “zero in arbitration ”, whatever that means. All the VX guys on top, AS stapled to the bottom. Relative seniority, whatever fantasy works best for you. You have 6 months to enjoy your alternative reality, live there as long as you can, I guess

 

[QUOTE=Mea25000;2515111]Yes, Mea, you are an idiot.

 

I don't believe you are a liar nor an idiot. No matter where any of us shake out on any future list and no matter what that might look like down the road. It will not change what you are.

You a small, mean spirited, divisive, self-serving, self aggrandizing, ego-maniacal ass. You elevate yourself by touting "inside" information at every opportunity and use that to inflame, divide, poke fun of, and otherwise denigrate your fellow pilots for your own bloviating sense of self-satisfaction. You enjoy creating disharmony and conflict at every turn at a time where it is least needed or wanted.

I hope you enjoy your juvenile moments in the spotlight on an obscure and often ridiculous ***** board.

If you are indeed a pilot for this new airline, which I doubt, I am ashamed to share this profession with you. You are an embarrassment to the profession and to Alaska Airlines.

 

Bravo! Well said.

 

I'd be more upset about the new uniform than how the SLI is going to play out.

 

[QUOTE=Mea25000;2515111]I thought Alaska and Virgin America pilots were in mediation, not arbitration. Seeing that you can't tell the difference between the two, and somehow seemed to have gained inside information which should have never happened, as well as not realize that when UAL and CAL merged, the arbitrator found that CAL needed to merge to survive:
Also pointed out in the conclusion, you seem to not realize that Virgin America wasn't in need of merging. They were growing, as was Alaska, and Alaska outbid JetBlue to make sure to be the owner and win the west. VX was never a dying or weaker airline, with 10 airframes on order with 60 options for 2020. This was in the UAL/CAL decision as well:
http://ual.alpa.org/LinkClick.aspx?f...t=aW2PEPbXqsk=


P.S. If you don't wanna seem like a sad guy, being berated by other pilots as you seem to think to have superior knowledge to everyone on this board, maybe just stick to lurking if you can't back up your claims.

 

Reggie I would like to think everything you wrote is untrue. If you knew the content of my life, I think you would be very surprised of who I am. Maybe your right though but I sincerely hope not. My guess by your reaction is you were hired early on at VX and now are unhappy about how this SLI will turn out. If you were hoping to unfairly acquire your current seniority in a PNW base, then you really are just throwing a tantrum. If you think the outcome of this SLI will inhibit your current position in base in anyway, you are mistaken... Nothing will change, you will get the trips you want, the vacation you want. The only thing you will not be getting is a windfall out of your current three bases.
My message is simple... everyone is going to be ok. I will not be the #1 CA in SFO and you will not be the #1 CA in SEA. That is neither divisive nor mean

The SLI is a pretty big deal, I think sharing information is something most people want, most people would like to know what is going on.

Yes, we were in mediation and our mediator is now the lead arbiter.

I have recieved a significant number of private massages from more the a dozen VX pilots. All but one seemed thankful for any information. All of them conversed with me like adults. Everyone seemed like really great guys.
Good luck Reggie I hope everything works out well for you. My guess is you are a great guy.