The burden of proof is normally on the person making the claim, not the person refuting it. Of course, this is the court of APC, and all generally accepted rules of argument and logic are apparently irrelevant.

Where’s your evidence of “pervasive sexual assault” in the airline industry?

We’re all eyes.

 

Do not put words into my mouth. Can you show me and others here, how it’s pervasive, since you seem to be taking the stance that it is?

Look in the mirror to see the one with an ego. You are character assasinating someone (me) becausecI dare claim that sexual predation by men is not pervasive in this industry.

If you can show that I’m wrong, and it is in fact pervasive, then I’ll agree Iwas wrong. Until then, the claim is pure unsubstantiated bull****.

 

I'm not making the claim either way. And neither should you. I'm not a witness nor party to any of it.

 

Get off your high moral horse.
If ever this industry lost its moral high ground long time ago.
It’s all about money, seniority, perceived status, no desire to actually get good at anything before moving on.

What is the very first question asked when you hear of a new female pilot on the line? Is she hot? How big is her rack? You know that to be true.
And that’s where the slippery slope of ‘acceptable’ behavior by ‘reputable’ people starts.

 

True. But I guarantee somebody on the hotel staff was monitoring how much alcohol they consumed. For liability reasons those concierge suites don't put out alcohol at a happy hour without someone there to monitor things, and I'm sure Alaska talked to that employee as part of any investigation. Plus these hotels have cameras everywhere anymore, which makes me wonder how they would keep this guy on if there were any evidence of sexual assault, harassment, or drugging another employee.

As for the post earlier asking about my daughter, if I honestly believed somebody drugged, assaulted, and raped her I would be bringing holy hell down upon the DA and Police in Minneapolis until the SOB was behind bars. I don't care how much money Alaska wants to pay me. That is the other curious statement she made in the article. That she "may be open" to prosecution. Huh? I'd think she'd be all over them to arrest him.

 

Moral High horse? What a ridiculous comment. I’M not the one here labeling others with a very broad brush by claiming that sexual misconduct is somehow pervasive in this industry. People like you who suddenly jump on this claim are actually the ones jumping on the high moral horse here.

 

I just want to give a shoutout to the mods for not locking this thread. It’s been both educational and entertaining.

 

Isn’t it funny how it’s perfectly acceptable to jump to conclusions and paint with a broad brush — unless those conclusions and brush strokes collide with their perception?

 

Lawyer-ism. Prosecuting an offender can interfere with a civil suit. She has years to try to get a prosecution going, maybe doing the company first, then the perp.

Or since they missed the window to collect evidence, her lawyer may have decided that if the DA declines to prosecute, or worse, loses a trial that would damage the civil case.

I wouldn't read anything into the legal manuevers.

I find it telling that she's going public in a big way. She's either really pizzed, or the lawyer is trying to put PR hurt on the company. She looks pizzed to me.

 

I'd say its a combination of both. Another interesting thing she said was

“I wanted to get back in the cockpit flying before moving forward with anything,”

Sounds to me like Alaska was coming after her on a drug/alcohol investigation and she was more worried about that than anything else. Also explains why she seems to be more pizzed at Alaska than anyone else. While I agree AK will try and bury this, they may have no choice but to go public with some of the investigation to defend themselves as the me too gang is pushing a boycott of Alaska.