Yikes...
03-21-2018, 03:37 PM
#451
Banned
Joined APC: May 2012
Posts: 520
Originally Posted by CBreezy
Victim shaming at its finest.
The FO was a subordinate younger single (and attractive) female who was new to a corporate environment. Even IF she had gotten herself in a bad spot by drinking inside the window, she was given her slap on the wrist (with pay) and allowed to return to work no harm, no foul. Instead, she shows back up, finds out that the person with whom she had the incident and a person she vaguely knows is still employed and gives them a month to terminate him before filing suit. That doesn't sound an evil person just out to get a guy because he didn't want to date her or he she was infatuated by him so much she seduced him. Newsflash, that doesn't actually happen in real life. That sounds like the behavior of someone who was assaulted only to find out the person who assaulted her is still employed even after all of the awful details come to light.
The FO was a subordinate younger single (and attractive) female who was new to a corporate environment. Even IF she had gotten herself in a bad spot by drinking inside the window, she was given her slap on the wrist (with pay) and allowed to return to work no harm, no foul. Instead, she shows back up, finds out that the person with whom she had the incident and a person she vaguely knows is still employed and gives them a month to terminate him before filing suit. That doesn't sound an evil person just out to get a guy because he didn't want to date her or he she was infatuated by him so much she seduced him. Newsflash, that doesn't actually happen in real life. That sounds like the behavior of someone who was assaulted only to find out the person who assaulted her is still employed even after all of the awful details come to light.
03-21-2018, 03:46 PM
#452
Line Holder
Joined APC: Mar 2016
Posts: 88
This thread makes me want to scratch my eyeballs out.
03-21-2018, 03:51 PM
#453
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2010
Position: Baja Vermont
Posts: 5,177
Originally Posted by crxpilot
Actually she got drunk with the captain into her rest time and is trying to save her behind......and get her metoo paycheck while she is at it.
GF
03-21-2018, 04:06 PM
#454
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2011
Posts: 1,533
Originally Posted by busdriver12
You might be hearing that from reality television shows and some of your flight attendants. But you sure aren't hearing that from your female captains and first officers. I guarantee that.
My wife and her friends make ME blush; and they are all college educated professionals.
03-21-2018, 04:49 PM
#455
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2013
Posts: 10,082
Originally Posted by dawgdriver
Not to defend the disgraceful behavior of some idiot pilots, but let's not pretend those same tasteless and disgusting comments aren't routinely overheard from females in our industry. If you're not hearing them, you're not listening.
Men are justifiably considered pigs for talking like frat boys but please, let's not ignore that fact that women can be, and often are, far worse. The difference is that while men are censured and ostracized for their sexist behavior, women are often encouraged, even applauded for it. If what's being put out by entertainment and media isn't enough, hang out with a group of FAs on an overnight and listen for yourself. Better yet, watch a group of women at a batchelorette party.
Although convenient, males aren't the only bad actors.
Men are justifiably considered pigs for talking like frat boys but please, let's not ignore that fact that women can be, and often are, far worse. The difference is that while men are censured and ostracized for their sexist behavior, women are often encouraged, even applauded for it. If what's being put out by entertainment and media isn't enough, hang out with a group of FAs on an overnight and listen for yourself. Better yet, watch a group of women at a batchelorette party.
Although convenient, males aren't the only bad actors.
03-21-2018, 04:52 PM
#456
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2013
Posts: 10,082
Originally Posted by galaxy flyer
You’re kiddin’, right? She got six months time off—paid. For drinking in the window? Really, on probation they gave her a reward for doing so?
GF
GF
Anyone with half a brain after getting a 6 mo PAID leave for violating substance rules while on probation would lay low for awhile, if it were only that. They'd be thankful, even. This is not that scenario
03-21-2018, 04:58 PM
#457
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2011
Position: Taco Rocket Operator
Posts: 2,485
Originally Posted by CBreezy
Victim shaming at its finest.
.
.
At this point you can't say for sure one way or the other, and calling those who say you can't say one way or the other at this point "victim shaming" is absurd.
03-21-2018, 04:58 PM
#458
Swimmin' in da pool
Joined APC: Jan 2014
Posts: 444
Originally Posted by busdriver12
You might be hearing that from reality television shows and some of your flight attendants. But you sure aren't hearing that from your female captains and first officers. I guarantee that.
News flash: it happens. I've heard it from both, many times. I tend to lighten things up so maybe I invite a more relaxed setting but yes, happens more than you appear to believe.
No innocent groups. Women, of all professions and walks of life can be as guilty as men. Like men, there are those who act like professionals and those who don't.
Last edited by dawgdriver; 03-21-2018 at 05:11 PM.
03-21-2018, 05:03 PM
#459
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2013
Posts: 10,082
Originally Posted by FlyingKat
Seriously? Your comments throwing this guy under the bus without even hearing his side or the company's side of it are just as disgusting as those who would accuse the FO of lying to get a payday without any evidence.
At this point you can't say for sure one way or the other, and calling those who say you can't say one way or the other at this point "victim shaming" is absurd.
At this point you can't say for sure one way or the other, and calling those who say you can't say one way or the other at this point "victim shaming" is absurd.
So yes, you are victim shaming.
03-21-2018, 05:04 PM
#460
Swimmin' in da pool
Joined APC: Jan 2014
Posts: 444
Originally Posted by CBreezy
I've never heard a female pilot talk like, ever. I'm not saying women don't use vulgar language, but I rarely ever hear one do it in public outside of a circle of very close friends
LMAO. Thanks man. Made my day.
Actually, from the females I knew at my last (small) airline, I would contend the opposite may be true; women pilots were actually worse there than the men. One contributing factor was that it was a small, highly cohesive pilot group so people loosened up and got to really know each other.
Whatever the case, please, enough with the laughable sanctity clause and righteous exclusions for a particular sex or profession. People are people. We come in all colors, shapes, sizes and yes, behaviors. There are no all/none absolutes in life; anyone who tells you otherwise is either a fool or a liar.
Last edited by dawgdriver; 03-21-2018 at 05:38 PM.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
