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Old 02-03-2019 | 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Griever
Last I read in a Brazilian newspaper, Bolsonaro's government approved the transaction January 10. Shareholder vote on February 26.

If the deal changed, I haven't read about it yet. May I ask where you saw it was a dead deal?
Like I said I haven’t read anything about the deal for many months so your info is way more updated than mine. I think I read about it in the Puget Sound Business Journal a while back.
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Old 02-03-2019 | 09:22 AM
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Looking back at a few article from early Dec. it seems the Brazilian courts put a blockade on the deal but it was lifted after a new administration came to power. I must have stopped reading after that.
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Old 02-03-2019 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Griever
Once the Boeing acquisition is complete of Embraer's commercial division, the announcement will be a firm order of 60 E2 aircraft, 60 options at a significant discount. This will be to lift the sagging order book for the E2, replace the Airbus aircraft, and Benbrad can claim they're still sticking with "Proudly All Boeing."

The rumor is they'll announce QX will fly them, but they real strategy is to just SAY that so we fight hard for scope during contract talks, expending negotiating capital while ignoring other items. Then, once we have scope they'll go mainline.

They'll just poach QX's manual for the majority of the AOM. All they need to do is walk across the street now and open a filing cabinet. Psh, they can even get parts synergy since the QX E-175s have high commonality with the E2.
Yeah there's no way I'm flying an E2 coast to coast for scraps off the dinner table. F that. Our contract isn't amendable until 2024 and our Union has told the company any further changes will be through section 6. We're done with them.
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Old 02-03-2019 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by snackysmores
Yeah there's no way I'm flying an E2 coast to coast for scraps off the dinner table. F that. Our contract isn't amendable until 2024 and our Union has told the company any further changes will be through section 6. We're done with them.
Same type rating as the E170/190. Presumably it would be flown under current CBA, just at the +15% rate adjustment.
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Old 02-03-2019 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by snackysmores
Yeah there's no way I'm flying an E2 coast to coast for scraps off the dinner table. F that. Our contract isn't amendable until 2024 and our Union has told the company any further changes will be through section 6. We're done with them.
Excluding the OR/WA/MT/ID regional route structure, Skywest and Horizon are operating a good chunk of the Alaska Airlines route structure. You will fly the E2 where they tell you for the same scraps as you now fly to STL, ORD, MSP, MCI, DFW, DAL and so on. Horizon will do longer flying and Skywest shorter flying. Your contract assures it.
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Old 02-05-2019 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Griever
Same type rating as the E170/190. Presumably it would be flown under current CBA, just at the +15% rate adjustment.
Correct. Horizon flying the E2s will be the sum of Alaska’s future growth. I’m sure Embraer is slinging some deals considering the Legacies with vision are going with the A220.
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Old 02-06-2019 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by fivebyfive
Correct. Horizon flying the E2s will be the sum of Alaska’s future growth. I’m sure Embraer is slinging some deals considering the Legacies with vision are going with the A220.
Kind of like the legacies with vision fly both Boeing and Airbus products.
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Old 02-06-2019 | 09:09 AM
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This month's Air Transport World has a self congratulatory cover article on "The new Alaska". The picture of a Skywest EMB 170 says everything we pilots need to take away from the rah rah session.
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Old 02-06-2019 | 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Fred Flintstone
This month's Air Transport World has a self congratulatory cover article on "The new Alaska". The picture of a Skywest EMB 170 says everything we pilots need to take away from the rah rah session.
That's both hilarious and depressing. It sums up what we're up against. I bet they asked Alaska for a picture and the brain trust in Seattle sent that.
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Old 02-06-2019 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by fivebyfive
Correct. Horizon flying the E2s will be the sum of Alaska’s future growth. I’m sure Embraer is slinging some deals considering the Legacies with vision are going with the A220.
What? Only 2 US Airlines have orders for the A220 and Jet Blue is not a legacy. The 3rd airline (Moxy) does not yet exist. Oh, and Republic has an order that is in limbo.

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