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Old 02-24-2019 | 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Mercury624
Alaska likes to keep a young fleet and they're trying to aggressively expand. They haven't announced plans yet for the Airbuses but even if they were going to get rid of them it would take a while. There just aren't enough 737's out there to be snatched up and there isn't any room in Boeing's production output for a large order to be made for quick delivery.

Plus, they're still getting a couple more Airbuses delivered.
Aggressively expand? Growth is planned at 2% this year, and that’s Air Group so think Horizon and Skywest.
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Old 02-27-2019 | 10:35 AM
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Aggressively expand? Growth is planned at 2% this year, and that’s Air Group so think Horizon and Skywest.
Yeah, "aggressive" means nothing from AAG. Any expansion is in seat capacity or regional flying, not mainline getting more actual airframes. You can see it in the company financial docs and fleet plan statements with lease returns.

Sincerely hope we get bought by a company with more vision and less "special sauce" 🙄
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Old 02-28-2019 | 07:36 AM
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Yeah, "aggressive" means nothing from AAG. Any expansion is in seat capacity or regional flying, not mainline getting more actual airframes. You can see it in the company financial docs and fleet plan statements with lease returns.

Sincerely hope we get bought by a company with more vision and less "special sauce" 🙄
I think SWA getting their ETOPS approval is gonna be a game changer....even though mgmt claims they aren't worried. Methinks they are quiet screaming expletives over this.
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Old 02-28-2019 | 08:07 AM
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Management said they aren’t worried “because Southwest isn’t known for their customer service”. Heard it with my own ears.
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Old 02-28-2019 | 10:41 AM
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I think SWA getting their ETOPS approval is gonna be a game changer....even though mgmt claims they aren't worried. Methinks they are quiet screaming expletives over this.
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Old 02-28-2019 | 11:56 AM
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I’m still not so sure that hoardes of customers will want to sit on a 5.5 to 6.5 hour SWA flight. Most people I know can’t stand their cabin for more than an hour or two.

So I’m not yet convinced that they’re going to have a huge impact in that market.
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Old 02-28-2019 | 12:03 PM
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I’m still not so sure that hoardes of customers will want to sit on a 5.5 to 6.5 hour SWA flight. Most people I know can’t stand their cabin for more than an hour or two.

So I’m not yet convinced that they’re going to have a huge impact in that market.
Not like Alaska's cabin is noticeably more comfortable for the majority of people and even if it is, people still usually buy the cheapest flight.
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Old 02-28-2019 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 450knotOffice
I’m still not so sure that hoardes of customers will want to sit on a 5.5 to 6.5 hour SWA flight. Most people I know can’t stand their cabin for more than an hour or two.

So I’m not yet convinced that they’re going to have a huge impact in that market.
"hoardes of customers" fly coach on AA/UA/DL on 7 to 15 hour international flights, in seats with less pitch than Southwest.

I can tell you with absolute certainty that SWA will have no problem filling seats to Hawaii.
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Old 02-28-2019 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by navigatro
"hoardes of customers" fly coach on AA/UA/DL on 7 to 15 hour international flights, in seats with less pitch than Southwest.

I can tell you with absolute certainty that SWA will have no problem filling seats to Hawaii.
What SWA flights to Hawaii? They said they would announce ticket sales right after receiving approval. Instead they announced the are suing their mechanics.

Southwest sues mechanics union for taking too many planes out of service.

https://seekingalpha.com/news/3438930
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Old 02-28-2019 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by navigatro
"hoardes of customers" fly coach on AA/UA/DL on 7 to 15 hour international flights, in seats with less pitch than Southwest.

I can tell you with absolute certainty that SWA will have no problem filling seats to Hawaii.
Maybe. their seats are 17" wide vs. AA's 18" on their 321's.

Inflight entertainment doesn't quite match up. Free movies vs. a fee for each movie on SWA.

We'll see. I think they're just going to be another player in the market. That's all.
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