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05-21-2019 | 05:03 AM
#41
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We all tend to be machiavellian at heart. I have never voted yes on a contract, I never will. I am already a no vote and I have yet to see the junk they are about to throw at me. We don’t have a union, RLA takes care of that. We have an overpriced social club, dues I gladly pay. I expect nothing, yet am continually let down. With my no vote securely cast, the new contract will still pass with at least 65% approval. When I finally see the next catastrophe, I will pour over it and yes I will devour it for my own benefit. I will share my understandings, few will follow. Then I will be berated for making too much money. They will all label me a selfish company man, with the same breath they will celebrate my contemporaries that do the same as me at DAL and LUV, they parade them as champions
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05-21-2019 | 09:48 PM
#42
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I'm somewhat new and this thread is kinda informative. I want to do what helps us the most. I ask people I fly with when I should stop picking up extra stuff. I've been doing so because it has helped me buy a home. My family of 5 are better off for it. But when the time comes I plan on doing my part. When is that time? Some say it's always that time. Others say the ammendable date. And others say it's when the negotionations start slowing or going south. I wish the union would somehow put something out for people like me. Not something that would be illegal, but something was like "you know what we're talking about"
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05-22-2019 | 12:42 AM
#43
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From: This side of the dirt.
I'm somewhat new and this thread is kinda informative. I want to do what helps us the most. I ask people I fly with when I should stop picking up extra stuff. I've been doing so because it has helped me buy a home. My family of 5 are better off for it. But when the time comes I plan on doing my part. When is that time? Some say it's always that time. Others say the ammendable date. And others say it's when the negotionations start slowing or going south. I wish the union would somehow put something out for people like me. Not something that would be illegal, but something was like "you know what we're talking about"
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05-22-2019 | 07:20 AM
#44
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Personally, I'd have to consider the amendable date the starting line. Until then, there's no reason not to fly the contract.
05-22-2019 | 01:23 PM
#45
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From: Driving a Bus for Recreational Pleasure.
The courts have already shown that if a certain amount of open time is being picked up regularly then it needs to continue that way consistently. Any break in that normal routine will classify as a job action.
05-22-2019 | 01:43 PM
#46
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On that note for those pilots that aren’t somewhere on the autistic spectrum; it’s not hard to determine the mood of the union leadership and perhaps, act accordingly.
05-22-2019 | 02:34 PM
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This is not hard guys.... work as little or as much as you want tell April 1, 2020. Then when the MEC sends out a note saying, “The company has shown no interest in improving the cornerstones of our contract, sadly our negotiations have quickly come to a impasse.” Take a breath, take some time, enjoy your your family.
05-22-2019 | 03:35 PM
#48
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This is not hard guys.... work as little or as much as you want tell April 1, 2020. Then when the MEC sends out a note saying, “The company has shown no interest in improving the cornerstones of our contract, sadly our negotiations have quickly come to a impasse.” Take a breath, take some time, enjoy your your family.
05-22-2019 | 03:41 PM
#49
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This is the most common rationalization used by selfish profiteers.
05-22-2019 | 05:02 PM
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Very good post, totally agree brother.
This is not hard guys.... work as little or as much as you want tell April 1, 2020. Then when the MEC sends out a note saying, “The company has shown no interest in improving the cornerstones of our contract, sadly our negotiations have quickly come to a impasse.” Take a breath, take some time, enjoy your your family.
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