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Old 02-17-2020 | 02:32 PM
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Sorry, I didn’t realize it was such a difficult process for you. Next union meeting I will mention starting a kindergarten class to teach all the new hires how to pick up training events and premium trips.

In all fairness it is easier with 30-40 days vacation and there seems to be a lot more of both in the Captain seat. Just a guess but I would bet illnesses and sick time play the biggest role.
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Old 02-17-2020 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by OTZeagle1
We have all kinds of ways to make extra money. Some drop most of their trips and pick up premium. Some fly FAR max, work vacation, time out, and pick up as many sims as they want. Some fly many extra FCF segments. Some do many extra sims and extra check rides. It doesn’t affect you or your contract. They are taking advantage of the contract they have. You can’t because you commute and because you can’t everyone else is a “hoar”, perfect. I bet you are a joy to fly with.
Guys from other airlines are laughing at your examples of making extra money. Legacy VX "rule book" (which was garbage compared to many others) was superior in soft time to the matured Alaska contract. Granted the pay raise made up for that loss regardless of what some say.
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Old 02-17-2020 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by OTZeagle1
2019 income including profit sharing... no 401k

AS12CA $418,000
AS12CA $473,000
AS12CA $390,000
AS12CA $361,000
AS12CA $323,000
AS12CA $329,000
AS12CA $368,000

AA12CA $321,000
AA12CA $327,000
AA12FO $274,000 787
AA12FO $281,000 787
AA12FO $268,000 777
AA12FO $270,000 777
AA12FO $275,000 777
Pics or it didn’t happen bro
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Old 02-17-2020 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by echelon
Not quite accurate... Did you see the SFO trip with JFK/SEA overnights that was an 18.7hr 4 day that had ~14hrs of block? And those lines in January/February that were that pairing 4 times for a total of 75hrs of credit and 14 days off? Lol you want softtime, there it is! It's to pad the transcon pairings of all things.

Yes folks, here at Alaska Airlines we are working 18.7hr 4 day trips. That's how much this company values the time we give it.
4 day trip as in 4 duty periods? That should pay 20 hrs regardless of block, right?
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Old 02-17-2020 | 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
4 day trip as in 4 duty periods? That should pay 20 hrs regardless of block, right?
With the 2 layovers (JFK/SEA), he's talking about the 4 day pairings with long layovers that only touch 3 duty periods where the rigs kick in. You surely remember those horrible "3 day" OGG trips from SFO that went so junior where you'd fly from SFO on day 1 at 6pm, have a 23:50 layover, and do the redeye back to land at 6am on day 3 for 11 hours credit. This is the same thing..it's why ADG plus MDG, among other things is so important in where we lag
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Old 02-17-2020 | 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by snaksala
Pics or it didn’t happen bro
I tried... didn’t work. Tell me how. It’s hard for me to believe you guys don’t realize that may are making this kind of money at Alaska. You all must lie an awful lot in your own lives not to believe others. But I will prove it to you so you will shut up
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Old 02-18-2020 | 02:04 AM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
4 day trip as in 4 duty periods? That should pay 20 hrs regardless of block, right?
It's not 4 duty periods, genius, and that's why I mentioned a credit value, which FYI can be read right off of the pdf of the line awards or from the preview in crewaccess. It may come as a surprise to you, but you aren't the only one smart enough to understand our work rules.
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Old 02-18-2020 | 02:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Mea25000
Hey Brown, looks like you are running with a bunch of hustlers 😉 😂. I buy the numbers, we had a couple of guys reach 500k last year.
CP and DO don’t count 🙄
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Old 02-18-2020 | 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by OTZeagle1
We have all kinds of ways to make extra money. Some drop most of their trips and pick up premium. Some fly FAR max, work vacation, time out, and pick up as many sims as they want. Some fly many extra FCF segments. Some do many extra sims and extra check rides. It doesn’t affect you or your contract. They are taking advantage of the contract they have. You can’t because you commute and because you can’t everyone else is a “hoar”, perfect. I bet you are a joy to fly with.
Really can’t say how I am to fly with. Don't have that weird Seattleite fascination about what the stranger I am sitting next to thinks. Crystal clear on all the contractual benefits enjoyed by a couple hundred Seattle pilots. The fix for the rest of us is to move. Empty the other 4 bases. Got it. With the mAx sliding into the fall there might not be as many extra sims to go around.
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Old 02-19-2020 | 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by OTZeagle1
We have all kinds of ways to make extra money. Some drop most of their trips and pick up premium. Some fly FAR max, work vacation, time out, and pick up as many sims as they want. Some fly many extra FCF segments. Some do many extra sims and extra check rides. It doesn’t affect you or your contract. They are taking advantage of the contract they have. You can’t because you commute and because you can’t everyone else is a “hoar”, perfect. I bet you are a joy to fly with.
As many others have stated your examples of making extra money are limited to Seattle.

Drop most of your trips, not happening if it drops you below 75. Also with reserve coverage constantly moving below the required amount that’s not an option for a majority of the group. Also the large amount of MOUs that limit swapping to the second Tuesday of December between 04:00-04:02

Pick up premium trips, once again limited to Seattle and then a few scattered through other bases. Not at the level of Seattle.

Some fly FAR max. Okay I get it, possible for everyone unless you have a family you enjoy spending time with.

Work vacation, this is the most practical and easiest way to make extra money. But also at the loss of some extra time off.

Pick up sims, Seattle 7373 only to my knowledge. I’m not sure if this even offered in SFO.

FCF, sims, and checks rides are limited to the 3% that are check airmen.

You have stated ways to make extra money but they are limited to Seattle based pilots. Maybe the next contract should include ways for the entire pilot group to have the same opportunities to make extra money.
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