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02-13-2020 | 07:19 PM

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IIRC they had at one point 80 seat 900’s being operated by Mesa.

I think they still have some 79 seaters...

02-13-2020 | 07:44 PM

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Hopefully American has strong code share and scope language. The kind that would require
the removal of the non-compliant E-175’s from Horizon Air’s fleet.

I haven't seen it recently so maybe it has changed since the last contract or via MOU, but American's contract in clear language, has an Alaska Airlines carveout with zero restrictions.

02-14-2020 | 04:19 AM

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Now AAG will be interchangeable. Simplicity.

The Awful Airline Group.

02-14-2020 | 04:31 AM

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At least the line check airmen will stop telling me we are getting 787s when they are doing a line check.

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02-14-2020 | 05:32 AM

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I’m guessing we swap our 30 A320NEO order for some of American’s MAX order and then sprinkle in some 319ceo’s and owned A320’s in a sweetheart deal for American.

Increased MAX delivery scheduled and expedited airbus draw down to the furthest extent the training dept can handle. Hiring will downshift to 1st gear, to accommodate this efficiency campaign. The C level will tout this necessary to get margins on the top end of their desired number, then lie to us again and again saying “growth” is right around the corner.

02-14-2020 | 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Cruz5350

IIRC they had at one point 80 seat 900’s being operated by Mesa.

AA scope limits RJs to 76 seats. I believe we may still have some 80 seaters flying around that were grandfathered in with US Air.

02-14-2020 | 09:13 AM

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At least the line check airmen will stop telling me we are getting 787s when they are doing a line check.

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I think the opposite. I would have put 787 at AS by 2028 at about 20% before this announcement, now I would say it’s a coin flip.

02-14-2020 | 09:16 AM

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Much of this is very much the plan over the next few years. There is also the possibility of a significant increase in flying for us out of PHX... we shall see

We will train as much as the department can handle, it remains to be seen if that will significantly decrease growth. The economy will have the greatest affect on that.

02-14-2020 | 09:31 AM

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I’m guessing we swap our 30 A320NEO order for some of American’s MAX order and then sprinkle in some 319ceo’s and owned A320’s in a sweetheart deal for American.

That would be a sweetheart deal... 320 NEO positions (convertible to 321, XL) are gold. Max positions? Just go to the factory and pick out as many as you like.

02-14-2020 | 09:35 AM

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This is really bad. This basically makes Alaska another regional for American and if I had to guess will likely halt any growth that B and B promised in the smoke and mirrors. likely that MEAs bronze plan just turned into the recycled aluminum plan.