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Old 06-10-2020 | 08:36 AM
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Imagine having management with vision:

“We are built to operate 800 airplanes,” he explained. “If you cut the activity in half and operate just 400 airplanes you have just generated a significant increase in our cost per seat. That’s why it’s hard to shrink yourself to prosperity in this business. Shrinking drives your (unit) costs up, making it even harder to cover your costs and earn a profit. So, if we can increase our cost advantage by increasing our number of miles flown, why wouldn’t we?”

https://www.forbes.com/sites/danielr...-airlines/amp/


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Old 06-10-2020 | 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by crjav8er
Yes, wasting away millions in stupid decisions has been frustrating to watch. The breaking planes is 100% managements fault - trust me I know the details as I have friends in high places too (see how easy that is to type)! I personally have prevented JL and CK from doing some simply asinine decisions. Again, super easy to type that nonsense.

The Angry 800 welcomed ALK management while the few ex QXrs were sounding the alarms about how arrogant and inept the Angle Lake team was.

Surly you are not implying that anyone can type something that isn’t a 100 percent truthful on the internet.
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Old 06-10-2020 | 12:05 PM
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I am left scratching my head about OTZ...

Along with his insider info that ostensibly was supposed to help the pilots, I previously recall when he was being hammered, professing that he was all about getting a fair contract and being as determined and united as any other AS pilot to achieve this outcome.

Now, he's made a 180 and is basically slamming the AS pilot body, in particular the LVX guys, and swearing up and down that "our" (AS Management) vengeance will be swift and without mercy.

I got whiplash with that sudden and dramatic change.

I guess having been called out, he sees no point in maintaining the charade any longer?
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Old 06-10-2020 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by All Bizniz
I am left scratching my head about OTZ...

Along with his insider info that ostensibly was supposed to help the pilots, I previously recall when he was being hammered, professing that he was all about getting a fair contract and being as determined and united as any other AS pilot to achieve this outcome.

Now, he's made a 180 and is basically slamming the AS pilot body, in particular the LVX guys, and swearing up and down that "our" (AS Management) vengeance will be swift and without mercy.

I got whiplash with that sudden and dramatic change.

I guess having been called out, he sees no point in maintaining the charade any longer?
I am one of the most pro-pilot individuals on this website. I just am not stupid, I don’t believe in DAL plus 20% and all the other stupid crap. I believe industry standard wages, that result from the underlying economics. I know what is realistic and I know what is not. I hate the caustic behaviors of the Angry8. (really this group consist of about 60% of the 580 or so VXrs... so 350ish) This group gets all the reasonable protesters at AS fired up with lies and half truths. They push the throwing bricks and molotov Cocktails, to the total demise of the group as a whole. There is no vengeance from the company, just no favors either. 385, will soon get there 18-36mos off and there will be no guilt on the management side. We after all made our bed and now we get to sleep in it.
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Old 06-10-2020 | 12:45 PM
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The management team that can't even keep enough composure to play a disruptive character on an anonymous internet forum without outing themselves is the the same genius team we have no hope of ever negotiating against...ever. Give me a break.
Stand by for a new screen name who is definitely absolutely positively not OTZ/MEA to pop up any day now.
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Old 06-10-2020 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by OTZeagle1
I am one of the most pro-pilot individuals on this website. I just am not stupid, I don’t believe in DAL plus 20% and all the other stupid crap. I believe industry standard wages, that result from the underlying economics. I know what is realistic and I know what is not. I hate the caustic behaviors of the Angry8. (really this group consist of about 60% of the 580 or so VXrs... so 350ish) This group gets all the reasonable protesters at AS fired up with lies and half truths. They push the throwing bricks and molotov Cocktails, to the total demise of the group as a whole. There is no vengeance from the company, just no favors either. 385, will soon get there 18-36mos off and there will be no guilt on the management side. We after all made our bed and now we get to sleep in it.
So we poisoned the reasonable protesters at AS? That’s hilarious. Just because we won’t accept another dog **** contract with no scope isn’t throwing molotovs.
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Old 06-10-2020 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Downtime
I was just talking about this last evening at dinner with Ben Franklin.
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Old 06-10-2020 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by OTZeagle1
LUV has been fiscally responsible for years. They have a motivated engaged employee group, and a single fleet type. They will be reaping the benefits of all three of these dynamics during this downturn.
Again, OTZ is repeating was is written on Media sites etc... this is not groundbreaking news, nor anything new! He is nothing special nor is he or MEA management!
He is a character who wants people to believe he knows, he doesn’t!
All his predictions are taking numbers that have been reported elsewhere and he just repeats... like I said before he needs a psychiatrist or stop drinking so much, either way not someone I want as someone in the Cockpit!
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Old 06-10-2020 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by airb320
Again, OTZ is repeating was is written on Media sites etc... this is not groundbreaking news, nor anything new! He is nothing special nor is he or MEA management!
He is a character who wants people to believe he knows, he doesn’t!
All his predictions are taking numbers that have been reported elsewhere and he just repeats... like I said before he needs a psychiatrist or stop drinking so much, either way not someone I want as someone in the Cockpit!
uhm, so news media is reporting on our SLI, closing of our JFK, and our position bids... Ok got it, I forgot that was all covered in a 10k. Get real, 20, 120, 400, August 31st, 20%,12.5%... yeah I found it all. How about you try and everyone can judge... so what are the exact numbers of the new position bid?
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Old 06-10-2020 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by OTZeagle1
uhm, so news media is reporting on our SLI, closing of our JFK, and our position bids... Ok got it, I forgot that was all covered in a 10k. Get real, 20, 120, 400, August 31st, 20%,12.5%... yeah I found it all. How about you try and everyone can judge... so what are the exact numbers of the new position bid?

Dude. Why don’t you tell us? And then tell us how it’s all LVX’s fault. And then tell us how hosed we are gonna be. And how stupid we are.

Tell us OTZ/MEA


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