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#21
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190's? Sure, they belong at mainline.
But the problem is if you merge existing RJ flying, the RJ pilots will want a longevity-based SLI. You cannot legally staple them unless they volunteer to be stapled.
OO you can get rid of by letting the contracts run out.
But you'd probably have to threaten to shutdown QX and transfer the assets (ala Tranny)... how's that staple sound now?
But the problem is if you merge existing RJ flying, the RJ pilots will want a longevity-based SLI. You cannot legally staple them unless they volunteer to be stapled.
OO you can get rid of by letting the contracts run out.
But you'd probably have to threaten to shutdown QX and transfer the assets (ala Tranny)... how's that staple sound now?
#22
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Well if I were King...I'd have a merger of lists that greatly favored Alaska pilots, and would aim pay for the airframe to be somewhere between what Horizon has now and our blended 737 rates, comparable to jetBlue's 190 deal. A junior airframe on property works for everybody, and I've never understood the senior guys' aversion to smaller jets. Not sure of the mechanisms that would set that in motion, but as a realist I understand the gross lack of appetite on both sides of the equation. It may be a pipe-dream, but one that would strengthen our collective bargaining power and career progression in the long-run.
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We had 100 seat 737-200’s, 124 seat 737-700’s, 140 seat MD 80’s, 144 seat 737-400’s, 156 seat 737-800’s and 172 seat 737-900’s (w/ mid-cabin lavs) all for the same hourly rate....Where does a plan to bring in an A220-300 that flys trans con, can do etops and seats 115 -145 pax fit into that. Even a 195-E2 can fly 110 -140 depending on config...Why should we accept less money to fly a significantly more capable airframe then we have already had. Pre chinaflue Alaska had an RFQ out to Boeing for 700MAX, Airbus for 220-300 and Embraer for E195-E2. In Alaska managements mind those 3 airframes are equal period. So they pay equal....Jetblue just created a permanent B scale by allowing the A220-300, an airframe that hauls just as many pax as a 319, flies further and costs less to operate , to be flown for less....
#26
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Easy, integration based on Alpa years of service. 170/190 pay 4th year AS FO rates starting and up, 170/190 FO rates 65% of AS FO rates, top at year 5. It's not going to happen though, check back in 5 years this will all be silly bickering.
In the worst year in aviation history my CA friends got 18-22K bonus, most FO friends 8-9K. This is embarrassing everyone. We work for a good company, show up do a good job and enjoy. Trust your union to fix what needs fixing.
We are about on target, let’s see what the summer brings. Relax, enjoy, and let yourself arrive!
In the worst year in aviation history my CA friends got 18-22K bonus, most FO friends 8-9K. This is embarrassing everyone. We work for a good company, show up do a good job and enjoy. Trust your union to fix what needs fixing.
We are about on target, let’s see what the summer brings. Relax, enjoy, and let yourself arrive!
#27
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Wait. You have friends that are FOs? Did you tell them you were salivating to lick their furlough envelopes stamp it and rejoice when when they were on the street? It's amazing how you've changed your tune so much. Attachment 6033
Like I was serious 😂. You come on here, appearing to struggle with numbers, letters, shapes, and colors. I honestly find it hard to believe you are really an Alaska pilot. The funny thing is, most my friends that are FO’s at AS have IQ’s of 125 or higher. I struggle with drivel and dude, all you write on here is drivel .
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#28
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We had 100 seat 737-200’s, 124 seat 737-700’s, 140 seat MD 80’s, 144 seat 737-400’s, 156 seat 737-800’s and 172 seat 737-900’s (w/ mid-cabin lavs) all for the same hourly rate....Where does a plan to bring in an A220-300 that flys trans con, can do etops and seats 115 -145 pax fit into that. Even a 195-E2 can fly 110 -140 depending on config...Why should we accept less money to fly a significantly more capable airframe then we have already had. Pre chinaflue Alaska had an RFQ out to Boeing for 700MAX, Airbus for 220-300 and Embraer for E195-E2. In Alaska managements mind those 3 airframes are equal period. So they pay equal....Jetblue just created a permanent B scale by allowing the A220-300, an airframe that hauls just as many pax as a 319, flies further and costs less to operate , to be flown for less....
#29
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Like I was serious . You come on here, appearing to struggle with numbers, letters, shapes, and colors. I honestly find it hard to believe you are really an Alaska pilot. The funny thing is, most my friends that are FO’s at AS have IQ’s of 125 or higher. I struggle with drivel.
I struggle with numbers? That’s rich coming from the guy who predicted our furlough to a tenth of a percent.
You must be bummed. You were looking forward to seeing your crying FO “friends” at the Wally Mart in Gig Harbor.
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