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02-05-2021, 10:05 PM
#31
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Joined APC: May 2018
Posts: 1,174
Originally Posted by NewGuy01
I struggle with numbers? That’s rich coming from the guy who predicted our furlough to a tenth of a percent.
You must be bummed. You were looking forward to seeing your crying FO “friends” at the Wally Mart in Gig Harbor.
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You must be bummed. You were looking forward to seeing your crying FO “friends” at the Wally Mart in Gig Harbor.
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02-06-2021, 01:21 AM
#32
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Joined APC: Nov 2019
Posts: 791
Originally Posted by ExperimentalAB
700MAX all the way at one rate, absolutely. But that still doesn’t fix the outsourcing.
02-06-2021, 07:08 AM
#33
It's 5 o'clock somewhere
Joined APC: Oct 2020
Posts: 1,853
Yawn. The concept of integrating a mainline list with a wholly owned regional has been kicked around since Delta bought Comair in 1999. It will never happen for 1000 different reasons. Talking about it is just mental masturbation. Arguing about is is foolish.
02-06-2021, 11:04 AM
#34
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jul 2008
Position: C172 FO
Posts: 33
Originally Posted by Margaritaville
Yawn. The concept of integrating a mainline list with a wholly owned regional has been kicked around since Delta bought Comair in 1999. It will never happen for 1000 different reasons. Talking about it is just mental masturbation. Arguing about is is foolish.
02-06-2021, 06:40 PM
#35
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Joined APC: Feb 2019
Posts: 144
Originally Posted by 9mikemike
We had 100 seat 737-200’s, 124 seat 737-700’s, 140 seat MD 80’s, 144 seat 737-400’s, 156 seat 737-800’s and 172 seat 737-900’s (w/ mid-cabin lavs) all for the same hourly rate....Where does a plan to bring in an A220-300 that flys trans con, can do etops and seats 115 -145 pax fit into that. Even a 195-E2 can fly 110 -140 depending on config...Why should we accept less money to fly a significantly more capable airframe then we have already had. Pre chinaflue Alaska had an RFQ out to Boeing for 700MAX, Airbus for 220-300 and Embraer for E195-E2. In Alaska managements mind those 3 airframes are equal period. So they pay equal....Jetblue just created a permanent B scale by allowing the A220-300, an airframe that hauls just as many pax as a 319, flies further and costs less to operate , to be flown for less....
You keep believing your special and see how far that gets everyone. I can't wait to spend my commute explaining how we're the only airlines with regions flying 100+ planes for half what we could have done it for.
02-06-2021, 07:19 PM
#36
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Joined APC: Nov 2019
Posts: 791
Originally Posted by Back2future
This is the typical "we're special at Alaska" mentality that got us in this position. Without scope all the bluster in the world won't stop management from having qx fly 190s or Cseries while you guys remenice about your special relationship with management that dulled your senses to the expansion of regionals over the last 20 years.
You keep believing your special and see how far that gets everyone. I can't wait to spend my commute explaining how we're the only airlines with regions flying 100+ planes for half what we could have done it for.
You keep believing your special and see how far that gets everyone. I can't wait to spend my commute explaining how we're the only airlines with regions flying 100+ planes for half what we could have done it for.
02-06-2021, 07:42 PM
#37
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Joined APC: Mar 2020
Posts: 537
Originally Posted by 9mikemike
We had 100 seat 737-200’s, 124 seat 737-700’s, 140 seat MD 80’s, 144 seat 737-400’s, 156 seat 737-800’s and 172 seat 737-900’s (w/ mid-cabin lavs) all for the same hourly rate....Where does a plan to bring in an A220-300 that flys trans con, can do etops and seats 115 -145 pax fit into that. Even a 195-E2 can fly 110 -140 depending on config...Why should we accept less money to fly a significantly more capable airframe then we have already had. Pre chinaflue Alaska had an RFQ out to Boeing for 700MAX, Airbus for 220-300 and Embraer for E195-E2. In Alaska managements mind those 3 airframes are equal period. So they pay equal....Jetblue just created a permanent B scale by allowing the A220-300, an airframe that hauls just as many pax as a 319, flies further and costs less to operate , to be flown for less....
02-06-2021, 10:19 PM
#39
Prime Minister/Moderator
Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: Engines Turn Or People Swim
Posts: 39,293
Originally Posted by Cruz5350
We’re sitting here arguing about whose contract is better when all 3 of our pilot groups will see losses due to the new 3 way between AA/AS/JB when the real winners will be management and the share holders.
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