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Old 06-01-2021, 02:02 AM
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Originally Posted by at6d View Post
And its all FO’s on leave. The captains have all been called back. Unless I discarded the company email too fast.
That's correct. The holdup is training center capacity...too many instructors took the early retirement and it takes awhile to get the 35+ new instructors trained and up to speed. Also, the lack of captains to pair with the remaining 500 FOs on ExTO has created a bit of a conundrum until they start running upgrade classes. My bet is they'll all be recalled in the fall once the instructor issue has been resolved.

SWA also bought some office building just west of the new sim building, already planning the next expansion of the building while the paint is still drying on the last extension. This is per our base CPO update a couple weeks ago.
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Old 06-01-2021, 05:45 AM
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That's correct. The holdup is training center capacity...too many instructors took the early retirement and it takes awhile to get the 35+ new instructors trained and up to speed. Also, the lack of captains to pair with the remaining 500 FOs on ExTO has created a bit of a conundrum until they start running upgrade classes. My bet is they'll all be recalled in the fall once the instructor issue has been resolved.

SWA also bought some office building just west of the new sim building, already planning the next expansion of the building while the paint is still drying on the last extension. This is per our base CPO update a couple weeks ago.
Well since you mentioned it and we are on the Alaska forum. That sim building extension has me thinking that Southwest is potentially eyeing the Eskimo and a marriage may be in our collective futures. It sure seems like the stars are aligning for the inevitable. It would make the combined Airline a formidable competitor nationwide and fill out Southwest’s market share in the PNW and the State of Alaska.
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Old 06-01-2021, 06:22 AM
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Well since you mentioned it and we are on the Alaska forum. That sim building extension has me thinking that Southwest is potentially eyeing the Eskimo and a marriage may be in our collective futures. It sure seems like the stars are aligning for the inevitable. It would make the combined Airline a formidable competitor nationwide and fill out Southwest’s market share in the PNW and the State of Alaska.

Way too much overlap on the West Coast. I truly doubt it.
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Old 06-01-2021, 07:29 AM
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Well since you mentioned it and we are on the Alaska forum. That sim building extension has me thinking that Southwest is potentially eyeing the Eskimo and a marriage may be in our collective futures. It sure seems like the stars are aligning for the inevitable. It would make the combined Airline a formidable competitor nationwide and fill out Southwest’s market share in the PNW and the State of Alaska.
I think that WN was looking at AS in the summer/fall of 2019 and the idea was scrapped when Covid hit.
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Old 06-01-2021, 10:27 AM
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If that marriage were to happen it would be a pretty devastating blow to the big 3.
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Old 06-01-2021, 10:39 AM
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If that marriage were to happen it would be a pretty devastating blow to the big 3.
It's an obvious move, buy the west coast rather than fight an extended cage match for it. End result the same in the end but much faster to buy.

Trustbusters can't complain too much since the net entity wouldn't be any larger than the big three and while there's obvious market overlap on the SWA side it tends to be spread across reliever airports, not all concentrated at the big hubs.

But I think there's a factor of how much market share do you lose by eliminating the AS brand in the PNW... a lot of those folks would probably fly DAL, etc instead of SWA, and a lot of them would have no choice (regional network that doesn't support guppy service). SWA has 100% scope. That inevitable loss of market share dilutes the value of the proposition.
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Old 06-01-2021, 01:27 PM
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Wait, I thought we were merging with Hawaiian???
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Old 06-01-2021, 03:02 PM
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Folks,

Alaska is now back in the same situation they faced in 2016: buy someone or get bought by SWA. If they don't pull the trigger on Hawaiian and "dirty up" the fleet but instead continue the fleet simplification to all B737, the outcome is inevitable.

Cheers - Rob.
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Old 06-01-2021, 03:28 PM
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Folks,

Alaska is now back in the same situation they faced in 2016: buy someone or get bought by SWA. If they don't pull the trigger on Hawaiian and "dirty up" the fleet but instead continue the fleet simplification to all B737, the outcome is inevitable.

Cheers - Rob.
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Old 06-01-2021, 04:18 PM
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If that marriage were to happen it would be a pretty devastating blow to the big 3.
That merger would be an enormous gift to Delta. It would likely require gate divestures in SEA, and with the Southwest product being the survivor, they would hemorrhage many of Alaska's highest value customers in the SEA area.
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