Originally Posted by PetRock

This right here:
- Pay AND CREDIT overrides for red-eyes and SE flying would solve these problems instantly. Make them more lucrative and efficient for days worked and people will snap up these currently "undesirable" trips. We know it works because it worked with the holiday pay. Every other shift-work industry uses PM/graveyard differentials, or for more difficult tasks/shifts. Why not us?
- Reserve lines 16 days on max. Any claim that "you won't work every day you're available" is just a straight lie from this company. They want to run reserves as close to 100% at all times, so we need to adjust our CBA rules accordingly.

Also any "woe is me" from management about costs can cry me a river because they literally just flushed 1 BILLION down a toilet to pump the stock, and had enough money to go buy a whole other airline as well. We made all that money for them, and they should never forget that.

Industry leading contract in all chapters. Accept nothing less.

Originally Posted by conquestdz

I wasn't even talking about making overall QOL better just for its own sake. I'm talking about the safety impact of the combination of lower than industy standard reserve coverage apparently year round now, unlimited circadian swaps for reserves and a red eye heavy schedule. It's not like we are only surging for the summer. Since their reserve staffing philosophy change in September it's high utilization all the time, especially for the most junior reserves. Fatigue calls are the only safety valve. They do literally nothing at the company level to mitigate reserve fatigue, and from a safety standpoint, it's just not good enough.

Originally Posted by PetRock

This right here:
- Pay AND CREDIT overrides for red-eyes and SE flying would solve these problems instantly. Make them more lucrative and efficient for days worked and people will snap up these currently "undesirable" trips. We know it works because it worked with the holiday pay. Every other shift-work industry uses PM/graveyard differentials, or for more difficult tasks/shifts. Why not us?
- Reserve lines 16 days on max. Any claim that "you won't work every day you're available" is just a straight lie from this company. They want to run reserves as close to 100% at all times, so we need to adjust our CBA rules accordingly.

Also any "woe is me" from management about costs can cry me a river because they literally just flushed 1 BILLION down a toilet to pump the stock, and had enough money to go buy a whole other airline as well. We made all that money for them, and they should never forget that.

Industry leading contract in all chapters. Accept nothing less.

Originally Posted by Cruz5350

This was literally said on the last negotiating cycle but it never happened. Alaska prints money and has no issues giving their pilots a little more. My opinion is 15 days off min for reserves and 16 on a 31 day cycle that way if you’re getting abused you’ll have some decent recovery time.

Originally Posted by PetRock

This right here:
- Pay AND CREDIT overrides for red-eyes and SE flying would solve these problems instantly. Make them more lucrative and efficient for days worked and people will snap up these currently "undesirable" trips. We know it works because it worked with the holiday pay. Every other shift-work industry uses PM/graveyard differentials, or for more difficult tasks/shifts. Why not us?
- Reserve lines 16 days on max. Any claim that "you won't work every day you're available" is just a straight lie from this company. They want to run reserves as close to 100% at all times, so we need to adjust our CBA rules accordingly.

Also any "woe is me" from management about costs can cry me a river because they literally just flushed 1 BILLION down a toilet to pump the stock, and had enough money to go buy a whole other airline as well. We made all that money for them, and they should never forget that.

Industry leading contract in all chapters. Accept nothing less.

Originally Posted by Carebear

If you give reserves 15/16 days off and 84 hours credit, it would go super senior. There are some reserves in other bases that are finishing the month with 0 hours credit, and many with <30 hours of credit. That's 6 days of actual flying and still being on call for 11 others that they didn't get called in on so they can sit at home. Junior line holders are getting 14 days off and 73 hours of pay with 35 hours in MCO or JFK and 260hours TAFB. Which pilot is away from home for longer? Then again, I've heard the rough argument where you can't go backpacking up Mt Hood or surf while you're on call because you have to get to the airport, so you have to suffer sitting at home doing your honey-do list for $1800/day.

Originally Posted by Cruz5350

Who says they need to be paid 84 hours of credit? Make it something basic like 5 hours a reserve day and if you block more you get that.

Originally Posted by Carebear

you can't go backpacking up Mt Hood or surf while you're on call because you have to get to the airport, so you have to suffer sitting at home doing your honey-do list for $1800/day.

Originally Posted by clearandcold

So same initial credit of 75 hours you get now with three less reserve days.

Originally Posted by Hawaii808

get yourself an Apple Watch with cellular and you can absolutely go surfing anywhere on Oahu with our 3 hr call out. Imagine the days before cell phones or pagers when pilots literally were stuck at home waiting for the phone to ring. Some pilots have no perspective on how good it is these days.