I'm with you on this one. How do we fix that contractually? Restricting the next day's show time to be within a certain amount of hours of the showtime on the prior day? Is it that simple?

 

Maybe some individual variation, but I have no problem simply taking an afternoon nap to prep for late flying. Then coffee. That works fine once, repeated flip-flopping day after day will quickly become problematic.

I guess you could ask for something like after your first LC callout, they need to keep you within a specific circadian window. Or say 48 hours to reset.

Maybe you could just divide LC into am and pm. They way that would work is you don't start and end at midnight...

AM LC starts at 1400 with first report availability at 0400.

PM starts at 0400, first report 1600.

But now we're back to the calendar day issue for days off.

 

That’s because you didn’t live long enough under the old system to see how ruthlessly god awful it was. Try being junior in back 2021 and before…

CBA 2022 Reserve is Lightyears better than the old system. The addition of ADG and 100% dead credit, made a huge difference, so you’re able to rack up credit much faster. And having a defined assignment hierarchy as well, for LC so that seniority is actually worth something now. At least you can attempt to commute on this new system, no one ever did on the old one. My biggest gripe under the old system was - if you got called on day 1 of 5. They would just keep adding **** each day to your schedule, teasing you until you came home on the last day and it was absolutely demoralizing. The number of 5-day and 6-day trips I would end up on - that started out with a simple turn- was astonishing. It’s rare your assignment changes once they call you out now. You talk about not being able to plan your rest, it’s laughable to me in hindsight. I remember when the chief pilots would chase harass us about too many fatigue calls or sick calls lol. The real proof is that my spouse loves me being on reserve and it pays better too. And don’t forget being able to pick up on your days off as well now, that HUGE. We never had that option when I was a new hire, got big medical bills? Suck it up and get a payment plan. At least you have the option to hustle on and make $$$ on reserve now. I wish they’d bring back and utilize the “premium reserve blocks” too, it was so much easier than competing for premium scraps all day. Having choices is a good thing, and the more for pilots the better. It ain’t perfect but it’s better than the old way by a country mile. Sorry that someone’s gotta be junior and suck it up for everyone else though.

 

Be thankful they are. The Same NC negotiating for WB.rates, no matter how irrelevant it is for some, is the same NC that will will work on reserve rules which is also irrelevant to some

You are 100% incorrect with your statement as the right seat will for sure have no problem being filled with pilots 55 and older, easily.

 

If I'm a Boeing pilot, I'm definitely interested in WB rates, especially if I'm an FO. Even if I never fly it, the highest rate on the WB would help me to get more senior and/or upgrade on the smaller equipment. I'd want the highest WB rates possible.

Seniority is good, yes?

 

The irony is that he has all these complaints about the reserve system and demands that they are fixed NOW. Yet none of the NC is on reserve. So he wants negotiating capital spent on things that only interest him right now, and cannot even remotely comprehend that they will also spend time on WB rates, because he doesn't care about that lol.

 

The fact that section 25 has been agreed to by both parties at this point is in my opinion an indication that there will be very few, more than likely zero improvements to the existing reserve system.

 

A good reserve system is relevant to all not just a select few. There’s a reason it can go senior at other shops. Senior folk bid it? That creates more movement for the bottom of the list to hold lines. Or if you’re stuck at the bottom and forced to be on reserve then your QOL is better. It effects all not some.

Higher WB rates will make zero difference this negotiating cycle to anyone already on the 73.

And yeah the fact section 25 is done is deeply concerning, can’t wait to vote no on this dismal first offer.

 

The math is simple:

From merger announcement on 12/3/2023

2 years for JCBA
1 year for SLI
5 year fence
2 years after age 63 you can’t switch equipment

Keep in mind that in two days we reach the start of year 3 since the merger announcement. Extending the timeline further.

The only variable is fences. Personally I think 5 years is incredibly favorable to the AS group and they will be much longer. Everyone has a theory on that one except the 3 arbitrators. It will ultimately only be determined by them.

You’re assuming that a captain will downgrade to be an FO on the 787? I could see some senior FOs making the switch before fences come down. That would be the only exception.

 

I wasn’t a CA on reserve with the last system but I knew it well as a FO. Last month I was on reserve with zero DH and ended the month at 87 hours. It sounds about the same except now, including the part where they call you day one and keep adding stuff until you are done on day 5. it’s impossible to get more than 2-3 days off in a row because PBS unstacked you every weekend. Now you are thrown on short call at all hours of the day instead of just starting at one defined time day one. Unless you can hold one of the previous few short call RAPs. Look at the reward the bottom 30-40% in every base is LCC. It’s that way for a reason. Sure if you’re a top seniority pilot sport bidding reserve in a base like PDX it must be great. But those are outliers. If you love being on reserve and are making tons of money I’m guessing you’re one of the outliers. No wonder you guys get mad when I suggest we change things. You’re benefitting at others expense.