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11-30-2025 | 05:14 PM
#801
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Joined: Jan 2016
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I like the new system compared with old. Need stack height floors for reserve that would force them to carry higher % of reserve. I hate flips and forced into being up for 20+ hrs. The health effects are absolutely terrible. Getting consistent sleep and wake times are key. If there’s no WOCL override that is substantial I’m a no vote.
11-30-2025 | 05:29 PM
#802
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Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 433
Likes: 31
Thats... wild. I have not had the pleasure of working hybrid or mixed lines, so I am not intimately familiar with their quirks, but expecting to not be called unless you are that ultra-senior person on a long list of more junior pilots is a choice, and if they are uncomfortable with the consequences then they need to re-evaluate their risk tolerances.
Amen to "I work to live, not live to work."
Amen to "I work to live, not live to work."
11-30-2025 | 05:47 PM
#804
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Joined: Mar 2022
Posts: 1,895
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I like the new system compared with old. Need stack height floors for reserve that would force them to carry higher % of reserve. I hate flips and forced into being up for 20+ hrs. The health effects are absolutely terrible. Getting consistent sleep and wake times are key. If there’s no WOCL override that is substantial I’m a no vote.
11-30-2025 | 06:09 PM
#805
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Joined: Jul 2017
Posts: 579
Likes: 30
I have no doubt that’s what they said, and I’m sure the company told them that and they just accepted it because it isn’t a priority for the negotiators. The company also said scope was a non starter last cycle and yet we ended up with at least some scope language. The union is simply saying they are unwilling to use negotiating capital on WOCL override. I think you’ll see most of what they are trying to negotiate will be wide body rates with very few changes or improvements to the existing contract.
11-30-2025 | 06:25 PM
#807
Line Holder
Joined: Mar 2022
Posts: 1,895
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I have no doubt that’s what they said, and I’m sure the company told them that and they just accepted it because it isn’t a priority for the negotiators. The company also said scope was a non starter last cycle and yet we ended up with at least some scope language. The union is simply saying they are unwilling to use negotiating capital on WOCL override. I think you’ll see most of what they are trying to negotiate will be wide body rates with very few changes or improvements to the existing contract.
Anyone 55 years old or older on December 3rd, 2023 will never get to fly a WB.
11-30-2025 | 07:55 PM
#809
Line Holder
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 449
Likes: 39
From: Precarious
I’d do anything to go back to the old system. 0230 was the junior line and it was fine if one was local. LCC was sold to the commuters and it’s been an absolute disaster for everyone with unlimited circadian flips. I’m sure our union had previously fought hard for 5 days off in a row for everyone on reserve for a lot of reasons. That just got thrown away without so much as a thought with this system. That was a horrible decision.
12-01-2025 | 06:10 AM
#810
Prime Minister/Moderator
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 44,882
Likes: 681
From: Engines Turn or People Swim
Interesting that no one in authority is really bothering to correct the false assumptions floating around SEA, I guess better the grease the JCBA if people think that's the only thing holding up SLI and their 48 hour CDG layovers.
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