I’m not laughing at anyone. I’m not wishing any ill will on anyone at Alaska. I enjoyed my time there. That being said I also enjoy Delta. For me (keyword) I looked for much faster seniority movement, better schedule flexibility, fleet options, and widebody. Plus all the soft pay which I like. You can say one airline is good without saying the other is crap. I said there’s a difference in line constructions. AS is typically easier flying but more days flying. Conducive to living in base. DL is more legs/work but more hard days off especially as a junior pilot. In terms of the Eskimo flying 78’s I’ll believe it when I see them actually operating. That’s a complete 180 from what they’re doing now in terms of “growth” (a few new routes and increase frequency).

 

You’re right, I’m fighting mad this week. A lost a friend way to young. His two kids lost a Dad, his sweet wife llost a husband. I really neat guy lost his son. I get to come on here and listen to lies, exaggeration, and sniveling. Yup, your lives are miserable because AS hired you. Every other pilot on earth has it better than you. I am embarrassed you all are on the same seniority list as me. I hope this week, the thirty are ashamed to be human beings!

 

yeah…. You’re right… posting about SEA is ABSOLUTELY germane. It’s good info. Also, turns out, there’s FOUR other Fn bases brother. Bottom line your experience is A part of what it is to work at AK. Your base, your seniority, your pension, your overrides….. that’s A perspective… AN experience. That doesn’t mean it’s THE experience of working at Alaska. And…. just because YOU don’t go read or post on previous employers forums (I don’t either.)…doesn’t mean that you know the motives of others that do. You MIGHT be right… but so incredibly presumptive to assume that the reason someone who used to work here reads or posts about their current experiences at brand X vs AK is simply to reassure themselves that they made a good decision to leave??? Why even have a forum? Just have

Alaska Airlines:
General Information:
OTZ’s Perspective:

And then just a continuous blog of you posting about everything from pay, to work rules, how Alaska is by every metric the best airline on the planet, SEA is the best place to live and work, and if you disagree…. You’re wrong.

Moderator…. Any chance we could do this? Maybe start an exclusive OTZ thread…. no commentary or dissent… just a running commentary of OTZ’s perspective.

 

Dang dude. You’re processing grief by slinging mud on APC. 😳 That’s brutal. Genuinely sorry for your loss. I lost a friend last week too. There’s better options for getting through it. 🙏🏼

 

What kind of scenarios are you getting soft time at Delta? Curious how it compares to AK.

 

WB’s, mergers, and organic growth have been discussed for years on end on this thread. It will not happen. It’s not in the Eskimo’s DNA.

 

This is what happens when your work life balance is so bad you lose touch with reality. Your “friends” are the “little people” who you work with. They change colors to chameleon their way through interactions with you. The eye rolling and things said in another room are not noticed. But this is the extent of your social interactions when you’ve lost touch with it all.

I’m sure therapy with help but only if he doesn’t try to be the smartest man in the room when he’s paying to speak to a professional.

 

If it's who I think it was I saw the news in my e-mail. Sorry for your loss. I didn't know him but it has been on my mind, thinking about his friends and family this week.

 

Mergers have happened. All with more or less the same endgame.

 

suit up pay for when on reserve you get called out and then something changes such as the line holder getting back on his or her trip you’ll be paid accordingly. Conversion pay for when you get converted from LC to SC and not used you’ll get paid 1 hour. Not the biggest deterrent but it’s something. Reroute pay is great. It’s a little complicated at first they provide a bunch of scenarios for you to get an idea of when you’ll get just straight pay or when you’ll get 150% pay depending on the circumstances of duty times, cancellations, and going into certain days off (GDO’s we call X-days). Not a soft pay thing but I do enjoy the “swap with the pot” ability. I will say I’m ignorant of the ability to do that at AS as I was a PDX guy and was never able to hold a line. Out of base pay and per diem for slips. Cancellation and recovery. If your trip cancels and you are given recovery flying you will be paid and credit the higher of two trips plus 100% of the recovery trip. If you picked up a premium trip then it’s the same thing but with the recovery trip being paid at 150%. Pay protected on any removal of flying if you’re a line holder besides sick leave. I’m probably missing plenty as I’m still green and far from a master of manipulating and understanding the system. Hope this helped some.