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Old 05-20-2023 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by OTZeagle1
What you would really like to see is my line… you wouldn’t believe what you could do around here if you had half a brain. I did 170 in APR with 16 off😱 I can do 120 and 17 to 18 with ease any given month!
No you did not….What was that song…”Life is just a fantasy”….
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Old 05-20-2023 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by OTZeagle1
What you would really like to see is my line… you wouldn’t believe what you could do around here if you had half a brain. I did 170 in APR with 16 off😱 I can do 120 and 17 to 18 with ease any given month!
I’m waiting, show me that line
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Old 05-20-2023 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 9mikemike
No you did not….What was that song…”Life is just a fantasy”….
You should see how many of my trips training picked up and how many time I went 1.5 and 2X… but you all know it’s true!

Being well liked and having good friends pays!
I love the Alaska pilot Corp!🤔
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Old 05-20-2023 | 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
No, I didn’t work 24 days.

I live in base. On reserve days when I’m not used, it didn’t feel like a work day. My phone never rang. I won’t call that an official day off. But I didn’t work that day either. Did all the usual stuff taking kids to school, pickup, drop off, etc


Look, go to Delta. You’re gonna be disappointed when you see that life isn’t that much better. A newhire buddy of mine got ATL 737 FO. Guess what his ALV (avg line value) was? He’s ****ed, he said he’d rather be back at Endeavor where he flowed from.
Your buddy doesn't know what he's doing and youre running your mouth exaggerating for you own self gratification. I don't know a single Alaske turned Delta guy who wishes they were still there. One classmate of mine who was hired after me spent multiple months rolling thunder as a commuter getting paid to DH to and from work... As for myself?... I'm on the lowest paying fleet and if I keep going at my current pace I'll make almost as much as I did on 5th yr pre contract pay for half the block. That's assuming I don't take an upgrade that will literally pay my the same hourly rate on the RJ as what I would have gotten had I stayed and upgraded but yea you're right it's so much worse here.
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Old 05-20-2023 | 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
On reserve I’m making way more. Delta and United can’t just pickup regular straight pay open time out of the pot for pay above guarantee. It has to be a premium deal and even then that’s seniority order. Getting green slips is going to be tough for junior street CAs.

Here, I haven’t been used on reserve days. So I picked up a 2-day, a 1-day, and a 2-day on regular days off. Pay went from 79 hrs guarantee to 106.5 hrs. At Delta or United, I’d have to put in for a premium pickup and would not get it because people senior to me would be awarded those trips.


Speaking of premium. Tons of CA premium at Delta and United. Last glance at Alaska system wide CAs: ZERO premium. Alaska CAs are staffed properly. Dare I say, overstaffed in some bases. Forget premium here, that will only happen once in a while now that CA staffing is good. FO is a separate story, they are short. But recently it seems they are carving up and more FOs I fly with are saying they are having some luck in 3rd step and regular


Bottom line, there’s ways to make money here. Some things other airlines don’t have. And yes, we lack some things they have. It’s not perfect by any means. But it’s still a decent 3 yr contract with early opener potential late next year.
We don't need to pick up straight pay when we can get it for double... We also don't need to pick up when our hourly rates are on average $20/hr more. So what you have to pick up we equal in our straight time, now that's depressing.
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Old 05-20-2023 | 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Cruz5350
We don't need to pick up straight pay when we can get it for double... We also don't need to pick up when our hourly rates are on average $20/hr more. So what you have to pick up we equal in our straight time, now that's depressing.
Just throw in downgrading captains to the mix because that will more than likely be happening in October. The upgrade will look a lot more like SWA when the dust settles.
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Old 05-20-2023 | 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by GoodJet
Just throw in downgrading captains to the mix because that will more than likely be happening in October. The upgrade will look a lot more like SWA when the dust settles.
With lower pay rates and QOL.
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Old 05-20-2023 | 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Cruz5350
Your buddy doesn't know what he's doing and youre running your mouth exaggerating for you own self gratification. I don't know a single Alaske turned Delta guy who wishes they were still there. One classmate of mine who was hired after me spent multiple months rolling thunder as a commuter getting paid to DH to and from work... As for myself?... I'm on the lowest paying fleet and if I keep going at my current pace I'll make almost as much as I did on 5th yr pre contract pay for half the block. That's assuming I don't take an upgrade that will literally pay my the same hourly rate on the RJ as what I would have gotten had I stayed and upgraded but yea you're right it's so much worse here.
I did not say an Alaska guy went to Delta wishes he was still at Alaska. I said a 2007 EDV flow to Delta on the ATL 737 hates it so much he wishes he was back at EDV.

As for AS, to each their own. I know guys who fly 15-16 days and have 14-15 off and pull 100+ hr credit every month. Once you figure out how to work the system (and the CA staffing good in base to allow flexibility), you can really make bank while maintaining overall days off.
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Old 05-21-2023 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by OTZeagle1
What you would really like to see is my line… you wouldn’t believe what you could do around here if you were in the top 1% of Captain seniority and worked the system like me. I did 170 in APR with 16 off😱 I can do 120 and 17 to 18 with ease any given month!
Fixed it for you.
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Old 05-21-2023 | 01:03 PM
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What was your line number OTZ for June?
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