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10-04-2022 | 09:26 PM

#201

bmrd

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Originally Posted by FriendlyPilot

Rumor that Southwest has $375/hour on the table now for their top pay rate. So the $330/hour could go up in 6 months to a year once the other airlines strike deals with their pilots.

this is just not true… I don’t know where you heard that but someone made it up.

what I will tell you is my god we have a lot of Alaska pilots in our new hire classes!! Come on over!

10-04-2022 | 09:51 PM

#202

waterboy

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Originally Posted by Pilotsoup55

Isn’t that the sad part? I have no dream to fly a heavy but it doesn’t pencil out here. Was told “industry leading” over and over again. Very disappointed. To each their own and if you wanna come at me for expecting the best of this place, go for it. But I’m gonna miss working here, it just doesn’t work for me anymore.

Good Riddance. I really hope you get picked up elsewhere. Your rantings on the first few pages made me stop reading to post a reply to you. I respect your opinion to vote no n the TA, but FFS the petty, defensive attitude on here has got to go. I get the feeling nothing will make you happy.

10-04-2022 | 10:54 PM

#203

NotTellin

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From: Upright & Breathing

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Originally Posted by Humbucker

Like I said… “it’s not perfect”, this will pass. I’ve yet to talk face to face with a NO. That said the bug seems to be the retro pay and all individual’s I’ve spoken with have gotten over that single item and look at the package as a rather good TA.

I agree that this will pass but not with my vote. You can talk to a real no voter when you see me in the airport. I’ll be the one with the orange “Don’t blame me” decal on my bag. It’s already been purchased.

10-05-2022 | 05:41 AM

#204

rickair7777

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From: Engines Turn or People Swim

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Originally Posted by bmrd

this is just not true… I don’t know where you heard that but someone made it up.

what I will tell you is my god we have a lot of Alaska pilots in our new hire classes!! Come on over!

Seems like it's pretty much all AS new hires jumping ship which makes sense unless you're rooted in PDX. Or more senior people who commute to the west coast.

It's a little hard to make a case to leave AS for WN if you have seniority and it doesn't improve your geographic situation.

10-05-2022 | 06:12 AM

#205

squall line

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From: CRJ

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Originally Posted by NotTellin

I disagree. There is a lot that should be improved in this TA. I believe that if it’s voted down, we will have a new TA in less than 3 months.

I disagree. QX Mesa and skywest had pay only contract improvements. Everyone is comparing their pate improvements to ours. Ours is an entire CBA. Sure I could be wrong, but I think it is misleading to compare what regionals have accomplished vs where we are.

10-05-2022 | 07:35 AM

#206

KnockKnock

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Originally Posted by squall line

Our entire CBA WASN'T improved and that's the problem. If it had been, I'd be more inclined to vote yes but since we only see real improvements in 4 areas, I'm a no. This is section 6. The whole book is open. We should be seeing improvements throughout the entire CBA and there has been no better time than now to get them.

10-05-2022 | 09:36 AM

#207

ShyGuy

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Here comes $100+ oil. But no worries, TA2 around the corner.

10-05-2022 | 09:44 AM

#208

pushFD

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Originally Posted by squall line

That’s not precisely true. QX did get some non-pay qol. Perhaps meaningless to you, but we have some improvements.

10-05-2022 | 09:53 AM

#209

KnockKnock

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Originally Posted by ShyGuy

Here comes $100+ oil. But no worries, TA2 around the corner.

So what? Where you been Shy? Oil was over $100 for the better part of the year. It's only come down in the last 2 months. High oil wasn't what motivated them to negotiate or not. It was attrition and pizz poor planning. Followed up with a picket and strike vote. Oil was never mentioned.