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12-22-2025 | 05:13 AM
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I think Ben and Shane would be open to airbus philosophically. But I'm sure they get a lot peer pressure in the SEA executive ecosystem since everything there has deep boeing roots, going back generations.
Also airbus generally cost more up front, which is always a sticking point with AS.
Also airbus generally cost more up front, which is always a sticking point with AS.
The MAX is 4 years delayed, and Alaska is now forced to cannibalize its own network to expand into new markets.
How much will it cost in burned bridges and lost loyalty? How much will it cost to lose presence in markets in major cities on both coasts?
These go beyond numbers on a spreadsheet, but I'm certain these factors exceed the cost delta of having a dual fleet.
12-22-2025 | 07:26 AM
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I agree, but I think they're operating on the ASSumption that everything will be better going forward. Due to SEA ecosystem there are strong gravitational forces pulling them in that direction.
There is reasonable hope that Ortberg can eventually un-eff it all. But I also think our current regime won't tolerate further major shenanigans from Boeing. Of course even if they commit to dual fleet today, it would be years before they start taking deliveries.
There is reasonable hope that Ortberg can eventually un-eff it all. But I also think our current regime won't tolerate further major shenanigans from Boeing. Of course even if they commit to dual fleet today, it would be years before they start taking deliveries.
12-22-2025 | 12:49 PM
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12-22-2025 | 12:52 PM
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Buying HAL is great but if you don't use the people who actually know global airline operations, and you simply install NB super regional management, that is exactly what you are going to get.
12-22-2025 | 01:17 PM
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12-22-2025 | 01:24 PM
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I agree, but I think they're operating on the ASSumption that everything will be better going forward. Due to SEA ecosystem there are strong gravitational forces pulling them in that direction.
There is reasonable hope that Ortberg can eventually un-eff it all. But I also think our current regime won't tolerate further major shenanigans from Boeing. Of course even if they commit to dual fleet today, it would be years before they start taking deliveries.
There is reasonable hope that Ortberg can eventually un-eff it all. But I also think our current regime won't tolerate further major shenanigans from Boeing. Of course even if they commit to dual fleet today, it would be years before they start taking deliveries.
There's a saying about the best time for planting a tree. The best time was 20 years ago. The 2nd best time is now.
12-22-2025 | 01:46 PM
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Hopefully operations gets ***** slapped by the Port if they keep running things as poorly as they have been. It’s a real shame what is happening around here. Nothing we can do or say to stop it, sadly.
12-22-2025 | 02:03 PM
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