WelcomeToBen

Doesn't FedEx still charge an application fee? Disgusting..

f10a

Have done plenty of union work. However, think twice before putting that on your resume as it could turn off potential anti-union employers and HR bafoons. Thoughts?

F15Cricket

Considering this is by far the easiest flying job I have had, I wonder what makes pilots stick out from one another ... Is it maybe that they are good people/citizens/employees and enjoy helping their fellow man?

Man, bitterness is gonna kill you ...

WelcomeToBen

Would you feel the same way if you didn't have that military retirement/health care cushion to fall back on?

F15Cricket

Absolutely.

I knew what the deal with pay and benefits was before I got here. Yes, it can and should be improved, but hating life because I don't get paid more ... Well, that's a quick way to helping everyone below you on the seniority list.

And as for those who are reading the Alaska Air Hiring thread, I have enjoyed everyone I have flown with. Don't let the disgruntled few turn you off from coming here--it is a great place to work.

captnmo

I see what your saying. I guess it would depend on what you did. At my company, we have the joy of PBS. I was just having a beer with a guy who's kind of a nerd, loves figuring stuff like that out and has practically cracked the code on that thing. Now he's going to help out on the PBS committee and probably make the pilot group a lot more educated on the matter.

If any hiring official holds something like that against an applicant, than it's probably not a place I would want to work. But I honestly don't get that feeling from Alaska.

Klsytakesit

They do not consider union work volunteering.....It has to be the homeless or the glbt cause to be considered volunteering......

2loud

Obviously, I don't know you but if I had to guess, you probably were pretty good at licking balls on active duty because your statement is what the military thrives on-sticking out from one another. Isn't that how the commanders motivate their troops to come in and do meaningless and created work in the name of enhancing ones OPR, promotion, assignment, etc? You know.....taking one for the team while the inner circle is the team.
Community service is something one does from the heart. The left hand should not know what the right hand is doing. Good deeds are not meant for a resume. Are you getting it now, grasshopper?
Bitter? Were you my sq cc? You must have been in some leadership position(s) on active duty because you are very predictable. I call things the way they are. People like you twist things and call me bitter, whiney, and angry. Quite the opposite, my blind friend. I see what I see and I don't sugar coat things. As I've said in my previous post, I'm truly at peace with myself. Bitter.... not at all because the truth will set you free. If you choose to pull your head out of your a$$, you may actually see the truth. It's a choice and I can't make it for you.

WelcomeToBen

Well said.

OrionDriver

I've tried not to weigh in on this whole back and forth. You know what they say about arguments on the internet...

But, man, maybe you're not bitter - but you are one astoundingly self-righteous person. There's calling it how it is, which you certainly do and not without merit, and then there is this petty belittling of those who choose the take a more positive outlook. Your comment about a military guy "licking balls" is incredibly juvenile and unprofessional.

Undoubtedly there is some (a lot of) BS in the system and it needs to be called out - I appreciate your unvarnished attention to this. But so aggressively attacking someone for liking the good in the system accomplishes nothing.

You've provided some great insights into Alaska and how things are done. But your condescending and sanctimonious rants are unbecoming of a professional pilot and quite frankly, sad. I certainly hope you maintain a better demeanor in the cockpit than you do on this message board.