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Old 01-26-2016, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by hoover View Post
I think volunteering in itself is good. I do it when I can but not because an airline won't hire me without it. I do it for me.
As far as job fairs- I agree that's getting old. This last 2 months I've been to 3 interviews and now have a choice of where I want to go and I've never been to a job fair for any of these airlines.
Maybe I've been lucky (most likely) and maybe I have decent experience. I'd like to think that's what got me the job not paying to go talk to a recruiter for 5 min.
But hey whatever it takes. I don't blame anyone for going to a job but I don't like companies requiring it. It's like an application fee.
Remember those?
Doesn't FedEx still charge an application fee? Disgusting..
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Old 01-26-2016, 03:30 PM
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Ya know, volunteering doesn't have to mean feeding the homeless and building roads. Spending time volunteering for the union at your current job can go a long way. I get it, we have families and life outside our work, but improving your current company isn't a bad way to....ya know....improve your current company. Then when you come to Alaska, Delta, American, whatever, you have some experience to improve that place too. Just sayin'.
Have done plenty of union work. However, think twice before putting that on your resume as it could turn off potential anti-union employers and HR bafoons. Thoughts?
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Old 01-26-2016, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 2loud View Post
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They need to concentrate on hiring competent pilots instead. This ain't the military where one has to suck your boss's nuts to excel.
Considering this is by far the easiest flying job I have had, I wonder what makes pilots stick out from one another ... Is it maybe that they are good people/citizens/employees and enjoy helping their fellow man?

Man, bitterness is gonna kill you ...
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Old 01-26-2016, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by F15Cricket View Post
Considering this is by far the easiest flying job I have had, I wonder what makes pilots stick out from one another ... Is it maybe that they are good people/citizens/employees and enjoy helping their fellow man?

Man, bitterness is gonna kill you ...
Would you feel the same way if you didn't have that military retirement/health care cushion to fall back on?
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Old 01-26-2016, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by WelcomeToBen View Post
Would you feel the same way if you didn't have that military retirement/health care cushion to fall back on?
Absolutely.

I knew what the deal with pay and benefits was before I got here. Yes, it can and should be improved, but hating life because I don't get paid more ... Well, that's a quick way to helping everyone below you on the seniority list.

And as for those who are reading the Alaska Air Hiring thread, I have enjoyed everyone I have flown with. Don't let the disgruntled few turn you off from coming here--it is a great place to work.
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Old 01-26-2016, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by f10a View Post
Have done plenty of union work. However, think twice before putting that on your resume as it could turn off potential anti-union employers and HR bafoons. Thoughts?
I see what your saying. I guess it would depend on what you did. At my company, we have the joy of PBS. I was just having a beer with a guy who's kind of a nerd, loves figuring stuff like that out and has practically cracked the code on that thing. Now he's going to help out on the PBS committee and probably make the pilot group a lot more educated on the matter.

If any hiring official holds something like that against an applicant, than it's probably not a place I would want to work. But I honestly don't get that feeling from Alaska.
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Old 01-26-2016, 05:41 PM
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They do not consider union work volunteering.....It has to be the homeless or the glbt cause to be considered volunteering......
 
Old 01-26-2016, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by F15Cricket View Post
Considering this is by far the easiest flying job I have had, I wonder what makes pilots stick out from one another ... Is it maybe that they are good people/citizens/employees and enjoy helping their fellow man?

Man, bitterness is gonna kill you ...
Obviously, I don't know you but if I had to guess, you probably were pretty good at licking balls on active duty because your statement is what the military thrives on-sticking out from one another. Isn't that how the commanders motivate their troops to come in and do meaningless and created work in the name of enhancing ones OPR, promotion, assignment, etc? You know.....taking one for the team while the inner circle is the team.
Community service is something one does from the heart. The left hand should not know what the right hand is doing. Good deeds are not meant for a resume. Are you getting it now, grasshopper?
Bitter? Were you my sq cc? You must have been in some leadership position(s) on active duty because you are very predictable. I call things the way they are. People like you twist things and call me bitter, whiney, and angry. Quite the opposite, my blind friend. I see what I see and I don't sugar coat things. As I've said in my previous post, I'm truly at peace with myself. Bitter.... not at all because the truth will set you free. If you choose to pull your head out of your a$$, you may actually see the truth. It's a choice and I can't make it for you.
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Old 01-26-2016, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 2loud View Post
Community service is something one does from the heart. The left hand should not know what the right hand is doing. Good deeds are not meant for a resume.
Well said.
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Old 01-26-2016, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 2loud View Post
Obviously, I don't know you but if I had to guess, you probably were pretty good at licking balls on active duty...
I've tried not to weigh in on this whole back and forth. You know what they say about arguments on the internet...

But, man, maybe you're not bitter - but you are one astoundingly self-righteous person. There's calling it how it is, which you certainly do and not without merit, and then there is this petty belittling of those who choose the take a more positive outlook. Your comment about a military guy "licking balls" is incredibly juvenile and unprofessional.

Undoubtedly there is some (a lot of) BS in the system and it needs to be called out - I appreciate your unvarnished attention to this. But so aggressively attacking someone for liking the good in the system accomplishes nothing.

You've provided some great insights into Alaska and how things are done. But your condescending and sanctimonious rants are unbecoming of a professional pilot and quite frankly, sad. I certainly hope you maintain a better demeanor in the cockpit than you do on this message board.
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