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10-08-2017, 05:42 PM
#2502
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I'm running into more and more pilots wondering when airlines are going to drop the 4 year degree. Just get one! Deep down I don't necessarily believe that a 4yr degree makes you successful or not in life but if you got into this career you knew that the good jobs required a degree.
10-08-2017, 06:48 PM
#2503
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Not everyone has $100,000 to **** away on student loans for a degree in basket weaving. I agree, If you have the time and money then by all means get a degree and educate yourself in something besides aviation. Anything, business, computers, management, etc. That being said. A degree never helped me land a large jet in a 30kt crosswind in a snowstorm at night. But apparently the airlines don't care. They want a degree over flight time and or experience. I'm sure their passengers would love to know that when the chips are down and the weather sucks that you have a 1,500 wonder boy in the right seat with a degree in Psychology.
10-08-2017, 07:21 PM
#2504
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Joined APC: Jan 2006
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Posts: 39,786
Also fighter time is almost all busy time. 2000 hours in an RJ really means maybe 500 hours of flying and 1500 hours of USA today.
10-08-2017, 07:22 PM
#2505
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Joined APC: Dec 2005
Posts: 8,908
Not everyone has $100,000 to **** away on student loans for a degree in basket weaving. I agree, If you have the time and money then by all means get a degree and educate yourself in something besides aviation. Anything, business, computers, management, etc. That being said. A degree never helped me land a large jet in a 30kt crosswind in a snowstorm at night. But apparently the airlines don't care. They want a degree over flight time and or experience. I'm sure their passengers would love to know that when the chips are down and the weather sucks that you have a 1,500 wonder boy in the right seat with a degree in Psychology.
What a ridiculous argument. If you want to make arguments like that, I'd say that by skipping a 4-yr college degree you got a 4-yr headstart in an industry that is based on seniority. (As in you already leaped the rest of us 4 yrs with that gamble of a headstart).
Just get the degree. It's not 100k unless you want it to be. You can get it online and a fairly decent low cost.
10-08-2017, 07:24 PM
#2506
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Not necessarily in every case. But the lowest common denominator is MUCH higher in fighters than in RJ's, so it's more of a known quantity. The RJ guy will have a an advantage in 121 knowledge and perhaps crew coordination (but fighters rarely fly solo, their buddy is just 30+ feet away instead of three feet away). Fighter pilots are almost assuredly on the accomplished and motivated end of the personality spectrum, while regional pilots are all over the map on that.
Also fighter time is almost all busy time. 2000 hours in an RJ really means maybe 500 hours of flying and 1500 hours of USA today.
Also fighter time is almost all busy time. 2000 hours in an RJ really means maybe 500 hours of flying and 1500 hours of USA today.
10-08-2017, 10:16 PM
#2509
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Joined APC: Aug 2011
Posts: 170
Not everyone has $100,000 to **** away on student loans for a degree in basket weaving. I agree, If you have the time and money then by all means get a degree and educate yourself in something besides aviation. Anything, business, computers, management, etc. That being said. A degree never helped me land a large jet in a 30kt crosswind in a snowstorm at night. But apparently the airlines don't care. They want a degree over flight time and or experience. I'm sure their passengers would love to know that when the chips are down and the weather sucks that you have a 1,500 wonder boy in the right seat with a degree in Psychology.
10-08-2017, 10:52 PM
#2510
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Posts: 784
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The old college degree topic strikes again. If you want a job at the big D, get a degree. If you don’t and you have less than 3k TT, welcome to the second tier airlines!
We all know a degree has no bearing on flying skills, it’s just a requirement for some companies. Heck, if I remember correctly the CA from 3407 had a degree.....
We all know a degree has no bearing on flying skills, it’s just a requirement for some companies. Heck, if I remember correctly the CA from 3407 had a degree.....
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