Alaska Air Hiring
10-26-2021, 07:55 AM
#5492
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Originally Posted by OTZeagle1
Touché, hommes and femmes…. I feel as though I am in Bordeaux. I am thankful only the wisest mill around on here. A lot of rhetoric and even more nonsense. Carry on!
10-26-2021, 09:48 AM
#5493
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Originally Posted by jayme
Have you ever worked for an airline using PBS?
10-26-2021, 10:40 AM
#5494
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Originally Posted by OTZeagle1
Touché, hommes and femmes…. I feel as though I am in Bordeaux. I am thankful only the wisest mill around on here. A lot of rhetoric and even more nonsense. Carry on!
Care to make some more wild an completely inaccurate claims about the future?
I’ll get some popcorn!
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10-26-2021, 10:43 AM
#5495
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Originally Posted by echelon
How's the HAL merger coming along? Is that going to tank hopes of a non-arbitrated contract?
The best was a line check airman on the jump that said we were getting more cargo airplanes and we’d be moving cargo for Amazon.
It was probably OTZeagle…
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10-26-2021, 08:45 PM
#5496
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Originally Posted by VirginEskimo
We all do. The folks working the passenger cabin are fairly unanimous on their appreciation of PBS. Likewise, our brethren at Horizon also seem to like it. The same AAG management group is manipulating their schedules and pairings but they haven’t watched their QOL harmed, quite the opposite. I’m not without trepidation and we should proceed cautiously but I get a sense that some in this pilot group are like an animal that won’t leave its cage when given the opportunity.
Not having any contractual language surrounding the selection, staffing, implementation and control over the PBS program will also have no effect on schedule quality or value…
Then I am in….We should ask Alaska Airlines to implement PBS now…
Of course the Alaska Airlines FA’s have a significantly better contract when it comes to scheduling and work rules. And they have been fighting with Alaska Airlines for 15 years over constant PBS implementation and scheduling violations. And what pilots that work for an entirely separate corporation with completely separate management and a totally different union and contract have to do with this discussion mystifies me.
If it is stand alone as good as you say with no input from ALPA and no language surrounding it then lets get it done
10-26-2021, 08:53 PM
#5497
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Originally Posted by 9mikemike
So PBS is unaffected by any contractual language surrounding pairing construction, min day value, required days off, cancellation language etc……Training pay and vacation value will have no effect on PBS…..
Not having any contractual language surrounding the selection, staffing, implementation and control over the PBS program will also have no effect on schedule quality or value…
Then I am in….We should ask Alaska Airlines to implement PBS now…
Of course the Alaska Airlines FA’s have a significantly better contract when it comes to scheduling and work rules. And they have been fighting with Alaska Airlines for 15 years over constant PBS implementation and scheduling violations. And what pilots that work for an entirely separate corporation with completely separate management and a totally different union and contract have to do with this discussion mystifies me.
If it is stand alone as good as you say with no input from ALPA and no language surrounding it then lets get it done
Not having any contractual language surrounding the selection, staffing, implementation and control over the PBS program will also have no effect on schedule quality or value…
Then I am in….We should ask Alaska Airlines to implement PBS now…
Of course the Alaska Airlines FA’s have a significantly better contract when it comes to scheduling and work rules. And they have been fighting with Alaska Airlines for 15 years over constant PBS implementation and scheduling violations. And what pilots that work for an entirely separate corporation with completely separate management and a totally different union and contract have to do with this discussion mystifies me.
If it is stand alone as good as you say with no input from ALPA and no language surrounding it then lets get it done
10-26-2021, 09:03 PM
#5498
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Originally Posted by flyprdu
How embarrassing. Of course, all of the issues that you wring your hands over could be addressed in the implementation LOA. But that would require hard bargaining, and that might jeopardize some pilot's invites to BT's cookouts.
In my short time here I’ve seen things get worse every single time something changes.
I think that’s why pilots are so afraid of change here at AS. Also the company would just violate the implementation LOA when PBS was set up.
A year ago they just took away vacation trading and vacation open time. It was insane. Just poof gone.
I had PBS at SkyWest and it was great. But with how things are at AS it would just be used to hose us even harder than we get hosed now.
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10-26-2021, 09:16 PM
#5499
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Originally Posted by NewGuy01
In my short time here I’ve seen things get worse every single time something changes.
I think that’s why pilots are so afraid of change here at AS. Also the company would just violate the implementation LOA when PBS was set up.
A year ago they just took away vacation trading and vacation open time. It was insane. Just poof gone.
I had PBS at SkyWest and it was great. But with how things are at AS it would just be used to hose us even harder than we get hosed now.
I think that’s why pilots are so afraid of change here at AS. Also the company would just violate the implementation LOA when PBS was set up.
A year ago they just took away vacation trading and vacation open time. It was insane. Just poof gone.
I had PBS at SkyWest and it was great. But with how things are at AS it would just be used to hose us even harder than we get hosed now.
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