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Old 05-16-2022, 11:34 AM
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If you guys had to choose b/w Spirit and Alaska Air which would you choose?

I live in Atlanta and Spirit is opening up a base there on August 1st. It's a lot less pay but I'd be living in base. The main reason I ask is that per the forum on here the contract w/ Alaska Air is not the best and a lot of pilots are leaving for Delta, United, etc...
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How is that even a choice if you live in and plan to stay in Atlanta, go to Spirit.
What I'm trying to figure out is if I could commute to LA, then do like a 2, 3, or 4 day trip, and then commute back to Atlanta. It seems like Spirit (despite the lower pay) is a better option for myself...but just thought I'd ask on here in case I was wrong.
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Old 05-16-2022, 11:35 AM
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What I'm trying to figure out is if I could commute to LA, then do like a 2, 3, or 4 day trip, and then commute back to Atlanta. It seems like Spirit (despite the lower pay) is a better option for myself...but just thought I'd ask on here in case I was wrong.
It's not lower pay, when you consider the soft time differences. And the cost of a divorce for being gone 20 days per month.
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Old 05-16-2022, 11:38 AM
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What I'm trying to figure out is if I could commute to LA, then do like a 2, 3, or 4 day trip, and then commute back to Atlanta. It seems like Spirit (despite the lower pay) is a better option for myself...but just thought I'd ask on here in case I was wrong.
Good luck with that when your line has 12 or 13 days off and isn't commutable.
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Old 05-16-2022, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by AR1978 View Post
What I'm trying to figure out is if I could commute to LA, then do like a 2, 3, or 4 day trip, and then commute back to Atlanta. It seems like Spirit (despite the lower pay) is a better option for myself...but just thought I'd ask on here in case I was wrong.
You have a valid question. Alaska is not a commuter friendly airline. It is also not a good career airline; what once was is no longer as management has dug a little too deep for that extra ounce of gold and instead triggered an ancient land mine. All management are greedy and arrogant but these guys are at the next level or two. I thought I'd never say this but Spirit offers a better career than the eskimo.
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Old 05-16-2022, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by AR1978 View Post
What I'm trying to figure out is if I could commute to LA, then do like a 2, 3, or 4 day trip, and then commute back to Atlanta. It seems like Spirit (despite the lower pay) is a better option for myself...but just thought I'd ask on here in case I was wrong.

You'd probably make more at Spirit and would be a lot happier at home. Our work rules and contract are near the bottom of the industry.
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Old 05-16-2022, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by AR1978 View Post
What I'm trying to figure out is if I could commute to LA, then do like a 2, 3, or 4 day trip, and then commute back to Atlanta. It seems like Spirit (despite the lower pay) is a better option for myself...but just thought I'd ask on here in case I was wrong.
I flew with a 2019 AS hire who commuted from ATL. He left for United in 2021.

There is no point coming to Alaska if you live on the east coast. Voluntarily choosing to come here for a 30+ yr career as a permanent east coast commuter? IHMO, go for the big 3 legacy airlines.

Also, nothing at Spirit is guaranteed. Who knows whether it will be jetBlue or Frontier? No guarantee that ATL survives as a pilot base going forward, depending on the final outcome. Same for the likes of ORD, DFW, even DTW. It all remains to be seen.

If you're an ATL guy, make a hard effort for Delta.
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Old 05-16-2022, 11:44 AM
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I’m a PNW native and I’m down with staying at Alaska for my career. Currently at QX. I think they will get a new contract and it will be a good place to be. If you ask any pilot 20-30 years ago (the amount of time I have left in my career) “the place to work” then, either doesn’t exist today or isn’t the place to be at today. My big thing is being located in the PNW, so Alaska is the best choice. A few bucks of pay really doesn’t make much of a difference to me.
That is a spineless, nauseating attitude. Dear God have some respect for yourself man.
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Old 05-16-2022, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by AR1978 View Post
What I'm trying to figure out is if I could commute to LA, then do like a 2, 3, or 4 day trip, and then commute back to Atlanta. It seems like Spirit (despite the lower pay) is a better option for myself...but just thought I'd ask on here in case I was wrong.
A little perspective for you then. I bid in the top 10 in SFO (as an FO) and am an East Coast commuter. On a "good" month I spend 8 nights in my own bed. I do hold lines with 13-15 days off but it is very common to only have 1 or 2 days off between trip pairings, not enough time to go home. I can upgrade (have been by passing it for quite a while) but that would mean sitting on reserve and getting home 2 or maybe 3 nights a month, no thanks. With nearly 10 years seniority I have my apps out at the big 4 and am starting to think about jumping to another "tier 2" airline just for quality of life.

As for pay, I am on 10 year pay, a good friend of mine is on 6 year pay at Spirit and consistently makes more while flying much less than me.

Good luck and keep banging on Delta's door until they open it for you!
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Old 05-16-2022, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by AR1978 View Post
What I'm trying to figure out is if I could commute to LA, then do like a 2, 3, or 4 day trip, and then commute back to Atlanta. It seems like Spirit (despite the lower pay) is a better option for myself...but just thought I'd ask on here in case I was wrong.

Stay in ATL with either NK or DL. It’s a no-brainer. Both represent more choices. Not commuting is cheaper than alimony.

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Old 05-16-2022, 03:11 PM
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What I'm trying to figure out is if I could commute to LA, then do like a 2, 3, or 4 day trip, and then commute back to Atlanta. It seems like Spirit (despite the lower pay) is a better option for myself...but just thought I'd ask on here in case I was wrong.
do NOT come here you’ll be happier at spirit. Better work rules better flexibility and competent management. All things Alaska does not have commuting is a special type of hell here
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