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09-29-2018, 05:56 PM

#341

crxpilot

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Joined APC: May 2012

Posts: 520

Quote:

Originally Posted by SladeTin

We aren’t hiring anytime soon. They think we’re overstaffed. They’re building condos and hotels instead of buying airplanes.

Dont forget the GoKarts and arcade machines!

09-29-2018, 07:54 PM

#342

akulahunter

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Joined APC: Jul 2014

Position: Uncomfortable

Posts: 481

Quote:

Originally Posted by CAirBear

Yup... I’ll be giving them 8-12 months from the day the last -80 is parked. If they don’t grow and start Intl (basically all the stuff they claim) oh and we still don’t have SmartPref, I’ll be out of here.

Awwww, I'll be sorry to see you go! I've followed you to two airlines even though I didn't know you... now if I can get about 250 other guys to walk, I'll be able to upgrade! =)

09-30-2018, 07:04 AM

#343

ecam

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Joined APC: May 2017

Posts: 733

Quote:

Originally Posted by SladeTin

We aren’t hiring anytime soon. They think we’re overstaffed. They’re building condos and hotels instead of buying airplanes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CAirBear

Yes the future isn't bright here right now, and management seems to have completely given up on running the airline. I'm really glad I'm a short timer in the industry. I'd recommend anyone who has 5 or more years until retirement, start updating your applications immediately. All of the airlines I've worked for in the past are shut down, and I have seen this graveyard spiral before. It's not good.

10-01-2018, 12:54 PM

#344

Desert Sky

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Joined APC: Feb 2009

Posts: 264

Quote:

Originally Posted by ecam

Explain the graveyard spiral comparison in relationship to G4.

10-01-2018, 02:04 PM

#345

JustWatching

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Joined APC: May 2016

Position: AB

Posts: 292

Quote:

Originally Posted by ecam

Dude.... you’re the common denominator. Please leave!

As for building condos and other stuff rather than buying airplanes, didn’t the last investor thing not say 120-130 airplanes by 2020? Isn’t that buying airplanes?

10-01-2018, 07:00 PM

#346

SladeTin

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Joined APC: Jun 2018

Posts: 199

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustWatching

As for building condos and other stuff rather than buying airplanes, didn’t the last investor thing not say 120-130 airplanes by 2020? Isn’t that buying airplanes?

It said around 125 aircraft by end of 2022, targeting about 10 new airframes per year. Whether or not that happens is anyone’s guess. Sunseeker certainly seems to be their primary focus right now.

10-01-2018, 07:27 PM

#347

Vegaspilot

Gets Tue/Wed and Sat Off

Joined APC: Oct 2008

Posts: 551

I kinda think ecam is right on this one. Time to go.

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10-01-2018, 08:33 PM

#348

LoFly

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Joined APC: Feb 2013

Posts: 218

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustWatching

didn’t the last investor thing not say 120-130 airplanes by 2020? Isn’t that buying airplanes?

BAHAHAHAHAH 50+ frames in 2 years and 4 months? Sure!
Come on, investor thing statements are to make investors invest more.
125 by 2022 is slightly more believable but it's not gonna be easy finding them. And fill them.

10-02-2018, 03:36 AM

#349

ecam

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Posts: 733

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustWatching

Another boring comment that adds nothing to the conversation from the biggest management shill on here. Don't worry junior I'll be out of your seat soon enough. For now better get off the internet and get up to the sim. Your students are waiting for you.

10-02-2018, 03:45 AM

#350

ecam

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Posts: 733

Quote:

Originally Posted by Desert Sky

Explain the graveyard spiral comparison in relationship to G4.

When you see management lose interest in running the airline. They just come in every day and turn the lights on and off. They attempt to diversify into things not directly related to the core business model. They pitch investors with wildly unrealistic claims to raise money for said side ventures. The stock drops and they start buying back to pump it up which burns through cash. Very high debt load and uncertain credit streams. Management stops direct communication with the employees and hides behind HR and PR personnel. Cute slogans graphs and unrealistic profit sharing goals pop up to keep employees motivated and working hard in the short term. Pretty soon they stop stocking parts and deferrals pile up. Facilities get realigned. Key people bail. It's all been done before, and the signs are here already.