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Old 09-29-2018 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by SladeTin
We aren’t hiring anytime soon. They think we’re overstaffed. They’re building condos and hotels instead of buying airplanes.
Dont forget the GoKarts and arcade machines!
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Old 09-29-2018 | 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by CAirBear
Yup... I’ll be giving them 8-12 months from the day the last -80 is parked. If they don’t grow and start Intl (basically all the stuff they claim) oh and we still don’t have SmartPref, I’ll be out of here.
Awwww, I'll be sorry to see you go! I've followed you to two airlines even though I didn't know you... now if I can get about 250 other guys to walk, I'll be able to upgrade! =)
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Old 09-30-2018 | 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by SladeTin
We aren’t hiring anytime soon. They think we’re overstaffed. They’re building condos and hotels instead of buying airplanes.
Originally Posted by CAirBear
Yup... I’ll be giving them 8-12 months from the day the last -80 is parked. If they don’t grow and start Intl (basically all the stuff they claim) oh and we still don’t have SmartPref, I’ll be out of here.
Yes the future isn't bright here right now, and management seems to have completely given up on running the airline. I'm really glad I'm a short timer in the industry. I'd recommend anyone who has 5 or more years until retirement, start updating your applications immediately. All of the airlines I've worked for in the past are shut down, and I have seen this graveyard spiral before. It's not good.
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Old 10-01-2018 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ecam
Yes the future isn't bright here right now, and management seems to have completely given up on running the airline. I'm really glad I'm a short timer in the industry. I'd recommend anyone who has 5 or more years until retirement, start updating your applications immediately. All of the airlines I've worked for in the past are shut down, and I have seen this graveyard spiral before. It's not good.
Explain the graveyard spiral comparison in relationship to G4.
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Old 10-01-2018 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by ecam
Yes the future isn't bright here right now, and management seems to have completely given up on running the airline. I'm really glad I'm a short timer in the industry. I'd recommend anyone who has 5 or more years until retirement, start updating your applications immediately. All of the airlines I've worked for in the past are shut down, and I have seen this graveyard spiral before. It's not good.

Dude.... you’re the common denominator. Please leave!


As for building condos and other stuff rather than buying airplanes, didn’t the last investor thing not say 120-130 airplanes by 2020? Isn’t that buying airplanes?
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Old 10-01-2018 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by JustWatching
As for building condos and other stuff rather than buying airplanes, didn’t the last investor thing not say 120-130 airplanes by 2020? Isn’t that buying airplanes?
It said around 125 aircraft by end of 2022, targeting about 10 new airframes per year. Whether or not that happens is anyone’s guess. Sunseeker certainly seems to be their primary focus right now.
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Old 10-01-2018 | 07:27 PM
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I kinda think ecam is right on this one. Time to go.


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Old 10-01-2018 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by JustWatching
didn’t the last investor thing not say 120-130 airplanes by 2020? Isn’t that buying airplanes?
BAHAHAHAHAH 50+ frames in 2 years and 4 months? Sure!
Come on, investor thing statements are to make investors invest more.
125 by 2022 is slightly more believable but it's not gonna be easy finding them. And fill them.
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Old 10-02-2018 | 03:36 AM
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Originally Posted by JustWatching
Dude.... you’re the common denominator. Please leave!


As for building condos and other stuff rather than buying airplanes, didn’t the last investor thing not say 120-130 airplanes by 2020? Isn’t that buying airplanes?
Another boring comment that adds nothing to the conversation from the biggest management shill on here. Don't worry junior I'll be out of your seat soon enough. For now better get off the internet and get up to the sim. Your students are waiting for you.
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Old 10-02-2018 | 03:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Desert Sky
Explain the graveyard spiral comparison in relationship to G4.
When you see management lose interest in running the airline. They just come in every day and turn the lights on and off. They attempt to diversify into things not directly related to the core business model. They pitch investors with wildly unrealistic claims to raise money for said side ventures. The stock drops and they start buying back to pump it up which burns through cash. Very high debt load and uncertain credit streams. Management stops direct communication with the employees and hides behind HR and PR personnel. Cute slogans graphs and unrealistic profit sharing goals pop up to keep employees motivated and working hard in the short term. Pretty soon they stop stocking parts and deferrals pile up. Facilities get realigned. Key people bail. It's all been done before, and the signs are here already.
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