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G4er 03-20-2024 07:13 AM


Originally Posted by tom11011 (Post 3783483)
Lol that's rich, seems like only yesterday you were right in there on Facebook talking up the union, educating the ney sayers, talking about "My union speaks for me", liking my posts and commenting on them with your agreement.

Not speaking for him but I believe if the facts change so should your mind. Also, when can you tell us what you know???

Captainbfv 03-20-2024 06:43 PM


Originally Posted by tom11011 (Post 3783483)
Lol that's rich, seems like only yesterday you were right in there on Facebook talking up the union, educating the ney sayers, talking about "My union speaks for me", liking my posts and commenting on them with your agreement.

Hey, I supported the union. But I was never a blind faith supporter like you, I actually had the gul to not look the other way when corruption was right in my face. Nice deflection tho

Captainbfv 03-20-2024 06:44 PM


Originally Posted by G4er (Post 3783493)
Not speaking for him but I believe if the facts change so should your mind. Also, when can you tell us what you know???

Exactly, many of us gave Robles the benefit of the doubt. But when some of us had enough integrity and desency to call him out when we became aware that he was a con man. Seems like Tom still wishes he hadn't been played like fiddle and that some of us were wrong so he could tell us "told you so". Meh

G4er 03-21-2024 07:57 AM

[QUOTE=tom11011;3782862]We are going to be ok.

The results of the audit are already known, just waiting for paper copy I am told.

Its perpetrator is often referred to as a scammer, confidence man (or con man), con artist, "grifter", hustler, or swindler. Its intended victims are known as marks, suckers, stooges, mugs, rubes, or gulls (from the word gullible). When accomplices are employed, they are known as shills.

Probably time to get some “representation”
I wouldn’t be AR’s propaganda spokesperson anymore either….
I flew with a FO who said he was called by Robles for posting to much negativity online. Threatened with stuff like they wouldn’t defend him if he got in trouble. Feds might look at that stuff to.
Or maybe I am just naive like you said and I do not know how it works.

G4er 03-22-2024 06:22 PM


Originally Posted by The Chow (Post 3783249)
This didn't age well.
you were correct about the results of the audit. While others are taking victory laps (justifiably I might add) where does this leave us with negotiations. How do we move forward? Thanks AR and all his apparatchiks. You stole from your own membership. I don't know if this meets the criteria for federal charges, but you are lower than whale poopoo.

Hiring an attorney with airline experience and putting our 10 mill in accounts that get interest is a good start. That these changes had to be made is incomprehensible… What in the world was going on???
Section 20 being done in 2 days instead of 5 years????

Margaritaville 04-02-2024 04:40 AM

Been awful quiet over here lately.

I'm told the führer has been deposed. Andrew removed from office with federal criminal charges likely along with KS. Been ordered by the company to report to training. Hope he likes Punta Gorda. That commute is going to be a beotch though. I hear O'Brien is pi$$ed and wants to make an example of AR for giving IBT a black eye. Ouch. What's the line in Vegas on how long before the company fires him as well?

Local in trusteeship and being rebuilt from the ground up.

Hoping you guys can get some competent people in charge now and get the contract you deserve. It's a shame he was allowed to rip the pilot group and the union and the company off for so long.

CptGSXR 04-02-2024 11:19 AM


Originally Posted by Margaritaville (Post 3787956)
Been awful quiet over here lately.

I'm told the führer has been deposed. Andrew removed from office with federal criminal charges likely along with KS. Been ordered by the company to report to training. Hope he likes Punta Gorda. That commute is going to be a beotch though. I hear O'Brien is pi$$ed and wants to make an example of AR for giving IBT a black eye. Ouch. What's the line in Vegas on how long before the company fires him as well?

I'd be curious to know how anyone would have any info from their union. Only info shared to members was from a FaceBook group that has been locked by it's owner and now I've been told that Teamsters National has taken over and decided to do Zoom calls on the busiest flying day of the Allegiant schedule instead of a day that 95% of the pilots have off system wide. But i'm just lurker, what do i know.

G4er 04-02-2024 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by CptGSXR (Post 3788108)
I'd be curious to know how anyone would have any info from their union. Only info shared to members was from a FaceBook group that has been locked by it's owner and now I've been told that Teamsters National has taken over and decided to do Zoom calls on the busiest flying day of the Allegiant schedule instead of a day that 95% of the pilots have off system wide. But i'm just lurker, what do i know.

Not much, we all know what’s going on, if you missed the zoom calls you can still watch them at your convenience. Marg seems to have a pretty good idea of what’s going on. The big difference is Robles fan boys are not shouting every one down as of late.

spooldup 04-03-2024 09:31 AM

I have seen/heard about screenshots from you guys about proposed pay rates that the "company offered" apparently. VERY close to legacy rates, but I am assuming it was false as I haven't seen/heard anything from an actual allegiant pilot and nothing is here on the forums.

flydiamond 04-03-2024 04:25 PM


Originally Posted by spooldup (Post 3788474)
I have seen/heard about screenshots from you guys about proposed pay rates that the "company offered" apparently. VERY close to legacy rates, but I am assuming it was false as I haven't seen/heard anything from an actual allegiant pilot and nothing is here on the forums.

Legacy rates are all but certain. What remains to be seen is how scheduling and pay rules (and scope!) stack up...


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