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Old 05-04-2026 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by CptGSXR
That is the exact opposite of what the last NC email said. Now, in the interest of fairness, it's possible on the 7th that the company would give a quasi 'lbfo'. They wouldn't call it that of course, but negotiations after that are kaput. It wouldn't surprise me AT ALL if the company was throwing in last minute poison pills like the fuel thing. And my greater point would be they wouldn't be getting away with such tactics if the previous NCs had been doing their jobs.
It’s actually not the exact opposite. The last NC email was written a week + later. Look at the NC email that came out on a Sunday I believe. The Friday before that is what I’m talking about.
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Old 05-04-2026 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by captnate702
How much of this do you believe is managment slowing everything down to see what happens with the fuel, economy, spirit, etc? I don't see why management would want to spend the money on any deal right now - they have the perfect excuse to do nothing and see what happens with fuel and economy in general.
They're going to have to sell to the BOD & shareholders a deal that means paying out a check equal to a quarter of the corporation's cash on hand. Not to mention pay increases. In a very uncertain global-economic environment.
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Old 05-04-2026 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by captnate702
How much of this do you believe is managment slowing everything down to see what happens with the fuel, economy, spirit, etc? I don't see why management would want to spend the money on any deal right now - they have the perfect excuse to do nothing and see what happens with fuel and economy in general.
It's hard to pinpoint it honestly. Because what I've always said before is that the company (management as a whole) has wanted a contract settled. To say they didn't was always disingenuous to me. But here's the catch, as you know I'm sure; they wanted us to accept as much as possible under their terms. That's where we needed serious and highly experienced negotiators; not to mention leadership. Now that I believe we have that, the dynamics have changed. There appear to be some on the company's side that were trying to get us to take a legit poison pill. I think their "agenda" behind it was bc they probably will get some sort of high monetary reward to seal the deal. Other managers appeared to not be happy with the hard turn and rug pull some did a few weeks ago. GA, appears to be possibly responsible for "intervening" and rectifying what was done a few weeks ago.

It's the board (company) that appears to be "concerned" with putting out something that could increase costs with possible future uncertainties. When the price of oil went up a few weeks ago, some board members wanted to delay any sort of deal (allegedly). Luckily with the current union leadership and NC, they have been able to bring calm, and keep the company at the table. The fact that the company has responded to the union requests in recent times in a reasonable manner says to me, that as long as outside factors don't escallate things, a deal could be reached.

But you're right, they could, possibly completely walk off the table. Hell they could sign an AIP this week, and then delay a full TA completely at the last second. We have to be ready for anything honestly. All we can do at this point is keep our fingers crossed, and support the representation which has been working some miracles behind the scenes. It's absolutely understandable to feel pessimistic right now, with so much this pilot group has endured for the past 4 to 5 years. People are resigning; not in massive waves like many kept saying, and with Spirit pilots on the street now, they'll be able to fill many of the seats at the legacies. How much will that affect us here (resignations) remains to be seen. It behooves the company to get the bonus of their hands, and the only way is through a TA. So I personally think they're gonna try to reach one... hopefully they don't throw in any last second poison pills. Fingers crossed.
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Old 05-06-2026 | 05:24 AM
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It’s been quiet this week on the negotiating front. Do we know if the Union received the pass from the company? And if so is it likely to go out for a vote?
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Old 05-06-2026 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Iceman63
It’s been quiet this week on the negotiating front. Do we know if the Union received the pass from the company? And if so is it likely to go out for a vote?
Next mediated meeting May 7/8. 🤞🏻
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Old 05-06-2026 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Iceman63
It’s been quiet this week on the negotiating front. Do we know if the Union received the pass from the company? And if so is it likely to go out for a vote?
Rumors around that the Board approved the final pass to the union. If that is true no real word on when we would here about it from the union. If they still plan on doing both days of Neg or if it is a vote to accept and then out to the pilots. Guess we should find out this week.
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Old 05-06-2026 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by pipercub
Rumors around that the Board approved the final pass to the union. If that is true no real word on when we would here about it from the union. If they still plan on doing both days of Neg or if it is a vote to accept and then out to the pilots. Guess we should find out this week.
Who are you hearing that from. Can you PM me?
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Old 05-06-2026 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by A-V-8
Who are you hearing that from. Can you PM me?
Guy that heard from a guy that talked to a guy that suppose to know. Why its a Rumor. Know one has prof or we would all know.
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Old 05-07-2026 | 12:46 PM
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Was just told that negotiation committee will be presenting to our executive council this evening.

anyone hearing similar?
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Old 05-07-2026 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by BroncoFtbl
Was just told that negotiation committee will be presenting to our executive council this evening.

anyone hearing similar?

Haven't heard anything. Source?
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