New Hire question
08-15-2023 | 07:05 PM
#191
Line Holder
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From: Capi the Chapi
i got an interview scheduled with allegiant. Im curious if my currency lapse of 2 years would be a problem. I got 3000 Jet time and 1000 of than on the A320 however my last flight was 2021 , was unable to fly due to family /immigration reasons but i am back now and ready to fly - any airline! Should i push through the interview knowing i might be wasting their time?
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08-23-2023 | 05:27 AM
#192
On Reserve
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Is it a wise choice to leave Mesa to go to Allegiant? Would it be a good bridge to get to a legacy?
Allegiant pay is really crappy, and I make at Mesa ($140k/year as line holding FO) way more than I'll ever make at allegiant FO. Granted I do pickup open time, but still... So? Do legacies hire from allegiant as much as they do Spirit?
Are new hires being out in 737 now? (do they even operate that now)
Is there a lot of open time to pickup?
Is there a lot of 4 day trips or are all majority day trips?
Junior bases?
Allegiant pay is really crappy, and I make at Mesa ($140k/year as line holding FO) way more than I'll ever make at allegiant FO. Granted I do pickup open time, but still... So? Do legacies hire from allegiant as much as they do Spirit?
Are new hires being out in 737 now? (do they even operate that now)
Is there a lot of open time to pickup?
Is there a lot of 4 day trips or are all majority day trips?
Junior bases?
Last edited by BusBoe; 08-23-2023 at 05:42 AM.
08-23-2023 | 05:44 AM
#193
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Oct 2016
Posts: 195
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From: A320
Is it a wise choice to leave Mesa to go to Allegiant? Would it be a good bridge to get to a legacy?
Allegiant pay is really crappy, and I make at Mesa ($140k/year as line holding FO) way more than I'll ever make at allegiant FO. Granted I do pickup open time, but still... So? Do legacies hire from allegiant as much as they do Spirit?
Allegiant pay is really crappy, and I make at Mesa ($140k/year as line holding FO) way more than I'll ever make at allegiant FO. Granted I do pickup open time, but still... So? Do legacies hire from allegiant as much as they do Spirit?
plenty of allegiant pilots go to legacies. At this point it doesn’t matter what company you are flying for a legacy will just call you today.
08-23-2023 | 06:21 AM
#194
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Feb 2013
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Is it a wise choice to leave Mesa to go to Allegiant? Would it be a good bridge to get to a legacy?
Allegiant pay is really crappy, and I make at Mesa ($140k/year as line holding FO) way more than I'll ever make at allegiant FO. Granted I do pickup open time, but still... So? Do legacies hire from allegiant as much as they do Spirit?
Are new hires being out in 737 now? (do they even operate that now)
Is there a lot of open time to pickup?
Is there a lot of 4 day trips or are all majority day trips?
Junior bases?
Allegiant pay is really crappy, and I make at Mesa ($140k/year as line holding FO) way more than I'll ever make at allegiant FO. Granted I do pickup open time, but still... So? Do legacies hire from allegiant as much as they do Spirit?
Are new hires being out in 737 now? (do they even operate that now)
Is there a lot of open time to pickup?
Is there a lot of 4 day trips or are all majority day trips?
Junior bases?
08-24-2023 | 04:56 PM
#195
Line Holder
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 505
Likes: 67
From: MD80 CA
Is it a wise choice to leave Mesa to go to Allegiant? Would it be a good bridge to get to a legacy?
Allegiant pay is really crappy, and I make at Mesa ($140k/year as line holding FO) way more than I'll ever make at allegiant FO. Granted I do pickup open time, but still... So? Do legacies hire from allegiant as much as they do Spirit?
Are new hires being out in 737 now? (do they even operate that now)
Is there a lot of open time to pickup?
Is there a lot of 4 day trips or are all majority day trips?
Junior bases?
Allegiant pay is really crappy, and I make at Mesa ($140k/year as line holding FO) way more than I'll ever make at allegiant FO. Granted I do pickup open time, but still... So? Do legacies hire from allegiant as much as they do Spirit?
Are new hires being out in 737 now? (do they even operate that now)
Is there a lot of open time to pickup?
Is there a lot of 4 day trips or are all majority day trips?
Junior bases?
08-24-2023 | 05:01 PM
#196
Line Holder
Joined: Aug 2020
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From: A320 CA
approx 45% of our FOs are attriting out and I’d say the vast majority are leaving for legacies or southwest.
08-25-2023 | 07:02 AM
#197
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Joined: Aug 2020
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If you want to go to a legacy stay at Mesa and update apps. You could delay any advancement to a legacy if you have any hiccup in training or run-in with the disciplinary thing at Allegiant. Probably better to spend time going to meet-ups. 737 are not flying yet and will probably be next year in Florida, barring any more delays in cert and or Boeing delivery schedules.
02-08-2024 | 02:00 PM
#198
New Hire
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Reserve versus line holder honestly doesn't matter much for QOL especially in a small base not in FL. You may have a bit of a shorter leash but you'll prob work a whole lot less (which may be good being 1 hour away) and make just a little less, especially on 1st year pay. Time to line is unpredictable, depends how many people quit, if more aircraft make their way into the base, and if the senior FOs bid reserve. For November the #1 FO bid reserve. I'd be more concerned about the potential for involv TDY as the plug but I don't think it's too common out of ABE.
As far as time to get the base, zero spots in ABE were offered to the October 31st class. There is one ABE FO vacancy on the current vacancy whose results will be used for both the Nov 21 and Dec 5th class. I see that one spot possibly making its way to new hires, but very high chance that if it does, someone in the Nov 21 class or senior to you in the Dec 5th class gets it, in which case it will be about 2-4 months *minimum* post training for you to get your base. What if 4 people in the Nov 21 class want ABE? It's definitely playing Russian roulette...you could end up waiting 6 or 12 months. Thats how long some guys have been having to wait for IND, or TYS, or AUS, which all used to be junior bases. There are currently no training delays whatsoever, so with future vacancies running several months out you *will* commute if you don't instantly get your base, and it will be very rough especially since much of the commute time will be over spring break and summer when reserves often only get 10 days off. Run a hypothetical commute to BLI, which 3 pilots are faced with in the near future looking at the seniority list.
For reference, only 1 of 13 new hires in the last class got their base of choice (ATW) out the gate. I can't think of a time it's ever been that low. This statistic should be very concerning to anyone reading.
As far as time to get the base, zero spots in ABE were offered to the October 31st class. There is one ABE FO vacancy on the current vacancy whose results will be used for both the Nov 21 and Dec 5th class. I see that one spot possibly making its way to new hires, but very high chance that if it does, someone in the Nov 21 class or senior to you in the Dec 5th class gets it, in which case it will be about 2-4 months *minimum* post training for you to get your base. What if 4 people in the Nov 21 class want ABE? It's definitely playing Russian roulette...you could end up waiting 6 or 12 months. Thats how long some guys have been having to wait for IND, or TYS, or AUS, which all used to be junior bases. There are currently no training delays whatsoever, so with future vacancies running several months out you *will* commute if you don't instantly get your base, and it will be very rough especially since much of the commute time will be over spring break and summer when reserves often only get 10 days off. Run a hypothetical commute to BLI, which 3 pilots are faced with in the near future looking at the seniority list.
For reference, only 1 of 13 new hires in the last class got their base of choice (ATW) out the gate. I can't think of a time it's ever been that low. This statistic should be very concerning to anyone reading.
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