Originally Posted by Margaritaville

Sorry to rehash this post from a month ago but I just came over to see how y'all are doing and saw this.

As for bringing in ALPA I seem to recall a small group of pilots looked into that around 2019 and made a lot of waves. A steward was involved and went out in a blaze of glory. AR and his goons squashed it pretty quick but the story I heard was that ALPA told the group pushing it that they have a no compete clause with IBT so they can't organize a direct move. You'd have to decertify IBT, go non union, then vote in ALPA. That's pretty risky proposition with this management and all the management friendly and alpa hating pilots at allegiant. I guess that's the real reason they let it go.

You're probably stuck with the IBT. You're better off fixing what you have than burning the house down and starting over. It's unfortunate to hear that AR is still acting like a king and overpromising/underdelivering. Unfortunately, the way he structured "his" local, he's pretty much immune from any challengers. He'll be the Big Boss until he decides he doesn't want to be anymore. Jimmy Hoffa must be proud.

Best of luck in your contract fight. What's unique about allegiant is that you're not just fighting management you've fighting a large group of your fellow pilots who don't want you to rock the boat.

Originally Posted by Margaritaville

You'd have to decertify IBT, go non union, then vote in ALPA.

Originally Posted by pipercub

I would say one of the bigger challenges is that we have pilots here that believe they do not deserve an industry contract. Plus any pilot at other airlines should want Allegiant pilots to uphold the Industry standard not lower it and where possible raise it.

Originally Posted by CRJdriver2017

What is their reasoning for thinking that?

Originally Posted by tom11011

It's mostly the top half of the list. None of the work rules apply to them, ie they will never be on reserve etc.. All they want is the money and retirement which the company will gladly trade for no work rules.

Originally Posted by bscott58d

I have been out of the industry for a few years and am working myself back into the cockpit. I was going to ask about Asheville as a junior base, but I should also ask what the consensus is regarding rough contract negotiations.

Originally Posted by tom11011

we are in mediation, about 1-2 years for a new contract.

Originally Posted by MilDriver

how in the world will they afford to pay that retention bonus?