Allegiant Air
03-24-2015 | 10:09 PM
#2231
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I voted to strike BTW but the union was saying SEND THE MESSAGE THAT WE WILL STRIKE that is the best way to avoid a strike.
03-24-2015 | 10:24 PM
#2232
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From: MD80 CA
You can send the message but they have to receive it. Clearly they have not. The possibility of us going on strike has been talked about at length for two weeks upper management is well aware of it by now. If they want to they can act and resolve this prior to a strike being called. If we do go on strike its because management failed to act.
03-24-2015 | 10:48 PM
#2233
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Those people probably wouldn’t comment on a public forum. But, I think you already know that. May I ask, long time lurker first time poster sir?
03-25-2015 | 05:08 AM
#2234
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I disagree. Until the 9th District rules, the LAS judge's ruling is the law. If you're convicted of murder but then you appeal, your butt is still in prison while the appeal is being heard. You are still a convicted murderer until the conviction is overturned. We can't sit idlely by while these "pilot profession murderers" run free to kill again.
03-25-2015 | 06:12 AM
#2235
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You claim to have voted to authorize a strike? Didn’t you read the fine print? Worrying about what our lawfully elected union leaders will do next; is like a nervous pax getting on an airplane, then waiting till we’re in cruise and screaming bloody murder. We’re done with that; you may as well sit back relax and enjoy the ride..
03-25-2015 | 06:14 AM
#2236
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Joined: Oct 2010
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From: CA
To be fair, neither was the proffer accepted - yet. Why make the parties wait a month during which no negotiations are scheduled to then call a face-to-face? It would be an interesting study to find out what the NMB historically does when granting a proffer - is this typical or do they simply come out and announce their decision?
03-25-2015 | 06:22 AM
#2237
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The nmb are political bureaucrats. They are taking the path of least resistance. Historically that’s their natural tendency. What we have before us now is real and available.
To be fair, neither was the proffer accepted - yet. Why make the parties wait a month during which no negotiations are scheduled to then call a face-to-face? It would be an interesting study to find out what the NMB historically does when granting a proffer - is this typical or do they simply come out and announce their decision?
03-25-2015 | 06:30 AM
#2238
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To be fair, neither was the proffer accepted - yet. Why make the parties wait a month during which no negotiations are scheduled to then call a face-to-face? It would be an interesting study to find out what the NMB historically does when granting a proffer - is this typical or do they simply come out and announce their decision?
As someone already said, unity is our major strength right now. If you want to poke holes in the G4 pilot group's strategy, maybe first consider asking management how we got to this point, because they are the ones who drove us here. The pilot group cannot be expected to just stand by and let management break every rule and law with no consequences.
03-25-2015 | 06:53 AM
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And if the 9th circuit rules in our favor, should we then wait for the results of the next appeal? Supreme Court? The company has already failed twice to overturn this. They will continue to do everything possible, spending millions, to muddy the water and avoid following their own work rules. They will take every opportunity to stall and obstruct us in an effort to wear us down. We shouldn't be helping them by being overly cautious. This might be our only chance to bloody their nose and expose them for their dishonest and illegal practices and treatment of their workers. We have enough headwinds to contend with between the timid and slow government and management. I'd stick with the union's decision, they're the only ones that have our interests in mind and don't put the shareholders first.
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