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Old 07-17-2015 | 05:12 PM
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I heard you guys actually believe that for every pilot you terminate he or she becomes your slave in the after life. Is it true my g4 management trolls?
Old 07-17-2015 | 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by MD80driver2day

Skywest recently stalled a -200... I don't know how we haven't done the same with some of our rocket scientists at the controls.
So people that shouldn't be at the controls ("some of our rocket scientists") are passed through the training department when they shouldn't be then? So another failure of our training department???
Old 07-17-2015 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by disco inferno

Quit if you're so afraid to work here and it sucks so bad. Actions speak louder than words. You all are lucky Allegiant doesn't have a court make APC cough up your IP addresses, track you down and have you fired. They would also be in a good position to sue you for slander. You should be grateful the people that GAS what you say are you and the other 6 or so guys that do nothing but play keyboard warrior all day on the interweb. I have no respect for people who complain and do nothing about it. .....


......Don't be a coward; shut up and quit already! have my reasons for being here and I owe nobody any explanations. If I felt as miserable and scared as some of you proclaim, I'd show myself the door.

Lighten up, Francis.
Old 07-17-2015 | 08:17 PM
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How did the allegiant meet and greet go the last couple of days?
Old 07-17-2015 | 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by MD80driver2day
This type of stuff does nothing but make the pilot look like a frickin moron. The airplane couldn't hold altitude at 330, huh? How heavy was the plane? What was the ISA deviation?

Skywest recently stalled a -200... I don't know how we haven't done the same with some of our rocket scientists at the controls.

The plane makes you nervous because it goes near the limit? Really? Do you return to the gate if you have a 499 degree start because it approached the limit? Jeezus people... Learn your frickin systems.
First off I wasn't there when the plane couldn't make 330, but I am friends with the pilot and have nothing but the highest respect for this individuals airmanship. The plane never made it to 330, it stopped climbing at 32.6 and airspeed started to decay. The FMS indicated 330 was doable. The crew started a descent and contacted ATC which had to issue vectors for traffic. Sound like they handled the situation as best they could to me.

Second I know my limitations, but when both engines on said aircraft push redline on nearly every take off that is cause for concern. What happened to only one red engine per plane??? What about safety is our highest core value?? I don't care that on paper this practice is "safe and legal" when in reality we ARE putting extra stress and wear and tear on these motors. It wouldn't count for two cycles if it didn't. So yes, constantly pushing an engine right up to limits that shows signs of already being weak with another engine that isn't much better gives me cause for concern.
Old 07-18-2015 | 02:46 AM
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Originally Posted by INXS
Lighten up, Francis.
Best movie quote ever! Seriously, step away from the key board before you blow an artery.
Old 07-18-2015 | 03:33 AM
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Originally Posted by disco inferno
Still you ValueGiant, CLMP, Vegaspilot, Hotel Pen, CRXpilot, Tyler ect ect. All the same people.

You all are lucky Allegiant doesn't have a court make APC cough up your IP addresses, track you down and have you fired. They would also be in a good position to sue you for slander.
Why target a select few when there's over 300 pages filled with names? Round em all up! Don't forget the people that have posted stuff about Allegiant on other forums and fire or sue them too! New revenue stream! Sue the media and the unions while you're at it. Angry passengers talking to reporters? Sue them too. Slander!!! You might even include yourself since your comments haven't always been rosy either.

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Old 07-18-2015 | 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by tyler durden
Slander!!! You might even include yourself since your comments haven't always been rosy either.
Bubba-butt kissing management posers will get a pass. We know who you are you little turds. Bring it posers, BooYaaa!
Old 07-18-2015 | 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by EngFail
Bubba-butt kissing management posers will get a pass. We know who you are you little turds. Bring it posers, BooYaaa!
Have you seen those offices at the "new" headquarters? I would go completely insane as well if I had to work there and deal with those individuals. It's like a Chinese sweatshop. Just long rows of desks with zero chance of privacy to get work done. I think at night it turns into a sewing room for Abercombie & Fitch.
Old 07-18-2015 | 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by EngFail
Bubba-butt kissing management posers will get a pass. We know who you are you little turds. Bring it posers, BooYaaa!
On a positive note, there are some good guys in management and there's been a few promising additions in key positions lately

And deletions. The fact that 2 VPs were given their walking papers last week is proof that even senior management knows change is needed. No idea who will eventually replace them but for the sake of those who stay (my Phone hasn't rung yet), I hope that trusting, charismatic leaders & managers find their way into these and other key positions. A change in philosophy will obviously have to come from the top and that too must happen eventually. We should try to lay the groundwork to encourage our good guys to step up or this place will only get worse.

Good leaders like Bethune have turned companies around by finding talented leaders and working with them to find joint solutions with the line workers. Who knows, a new fleet type, a change in management philosophy and a descent contract could eventually make a difference around here. It's happened before at places like Spirit, who knows, one can hope, right?

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