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Old 07-17-2015, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by disco inferno View Post
Still you ValueGiant, CLMP, Vegaspilot, Hotel Pen, CRXpilot, Tyler ect ect. All the same people.

Quit if you're so afraid to work here and it sucks so bad. Actions speak louder than words. You all are lucky Allegiant doesn't have a court make APC cough up your IP addresses, track you down and have you fired. They would also be in a good position to sue you for slander. You should be grateful the people that GAS what you say are you and the other 6 or so guys that do nothing but play keyboard warrior all day on the interweb. I have no respect for people who complain and do nothing about it.

For the record, these guys do not represent most Allegiant pilots. Sure guys are bitter about the negotiation process. I'm also frustrated how it's been going. 90% of the guys I fly with have no intention of leaving. I don't hear the non stop whining and melodrama from people on line. You have a very vocal minority that love to do nothing but complain and exaggerate. Send Maury an email of a copy of your posts. Share with management how you feel. I'll be waiting to hear the reports back from you all on how that went.

Don't be a coward; shut up and quit already! have my reasons for being here and I owe nobody any explanations. If I felt as miserable and scared as some of you proclaim, I'd show myself the door.
Once again I think I struck a nerve with you. The mention of lawsuits and firing people sounds very familiar to a BCP that sends off disrespectful emails to the entire pilot group.

Just to let you know the definition of slander is to make up false accusations with the intent to ruin someone or something's reputation. Go ahead and read my posts and tell me which are false accusations. I'll be waiting.

Please read my previous post again. I said I am putting 100% effort into leaving this place. The phone is on and I'm waiting for the call. I will let you know when I quit and then if I leave do I have your permission to keep complaining?

Finally, I noticed that you said you don't owe anybody an explanation to why you're staying. I don't think anyone really asked you your reasons. Once again, by the sounds of your posts and your inability to listen to what people have to say you sound like someone up north sitting at a desk. Just a guess, but I hope I am wrong that about that. There is a pilot group to take care of and a failing operation.
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Old 07-17-2015, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by disco inferno View Post
Still you ValueGiant, CLMP, Vegaspilot, Hotel Pen, CRXpilot, Tyler …and EngFail, get some! ect ect. All the same people.
Fixed it for you.


Originally Posted by disco inferno View Post
You all are lucky Allegiant doesn't have a court make APC cough up your IP addresses, track you down and have you fired. They would also be in a good position to sue you for slander.
You’re out of order; this whole courts out of order, BooooYaaaaa!

Originally Posted by disco inferno View Post
have my reasons for being here and I owe nobody any explanations.
And neither do I. Dude, what color is your hat?

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It was probably some sort of job action orchestrated by the evil Teamsters....
Blaming the union is like everything else in g4 management’s playbook. Point the finger.
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Old 07-17-2015, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by disco inferno View Post
Still you ValueGiant, CLMP, Vegaspilot, Hotel Pen, CRXpilot, Tyler ect ect. All the same people.

Quit if you're so afraid to work here and it sucks so bad. Actions speak louder than words. You all are lucky Allegiant doesn't have a court make APC cough up your IP addresses, track you down and have you fired. They would also be in a good position to sue you for slander. You should be grateful the people that GAS what you say are you and the other 6 or so guys that do nothing but play keyboard warrior all day on the interweb. I have no respect for people who complain and do nothing about it.

For the record, these guys do not represent most Allegiant pilots. Sure guys are bitter about the negotiation process. I'm also frustrated how it's been going. 90% of the guys I fly with have no intention of leaving. I don't hear the non stop whining and melodrama from people on line. You have a very vocal minority that love to do nothing but complain and exaggerate. Send Maury an email of a copy of your posts. Share with management how you feel. I'll be waiting to hear the reports back from you all on how that went.

Don't be a coward; shut up and quit already! have my reasons for being here and I owe nobody any explanations. If I felt as miserable and scared as some of you proclaim, I'd show myself the door.

Well, since you called me out by name and said I'm stupid when I never personally attacked you, time for me to chime in.

You have no idea who you are talking to and what you are talking about. The pilot's on this board whom you have labeled as whiners and chronic malcontents are the ones who helped build this company. Many have been here for the better part of a decade or more. Many are also union volunteers who devote their spare time to help fight the ones who are trying to prevent you from providing for your family. Maybe you can show a little appreciation.

You are very quick to accuse us of making up facts in order to dissuade future applicants for financial gain. How is that different than telling anyone who has a complaint to "just leave" in order to quench your insatiable appetite for seniority progression?

Lastly, the Airbus and the MD-80 are two very different jobs. You are very quick to dismiss those (some of whom have multiple engine failures) as unsafe pilots who purposely fly broken aircraft. It is an INSULT to us all. I no longer work at Allegiant but I will always support this pilot group who are up against one of the toughest fights of their careers. Your oversimplification of their jobs is a slap in the face.

Enjoy your seniority bump.
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Old 07-17-2015, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by disco inferno View Post
Heck, I have my apps out just like 90% of the guys here.
Originally Posted by disco inferno View Post
90% of the guys I fly with have no intention of leaving. I don't hear the non stop whining and melodrama from people on line. You have a very vocal minority that love to do nothing but complain and exaggerate.
I'm so confused. Which one is it, or is this two different people (personalities??) posting totally different thoughts?

Originally Posted by disco inferno View Post
Still you ValueGiant, CLMP, Vegaspilot, Hotel Pen, CRXpilot, Tyler ect ect. All the same people.
Haha, you have NO idea who you are talking to, and about, and what areas of the company they are in! I for one feel honored to have been included in with these guys.
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Old 07-17-2015, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Vegaspilot View Post
I know of one plane (422NV) that couldn't hold altitude at FL330. Didn't turn back in this instance, but wouldn't surprise if there was more than one. This CA almost got an FAA letter for it. Amazing. 422NV is red sticker and both engines go right up to the limit. The right one likes to try to go over. This plane makes me nervous...it's only a matter of time.

This type of stuff does nothing but make the pilot look like a frickin moron. The airplane couldn't hold altitude at 330, huh? How heavy was the plane? What was the ISA deviation?

Skywest recently stalled a -200... I don't know how we haven't done the same with some of our rocket scientists at the controls.

The plane makes you nervous because it goes near the limit? Really? Do you return to the gate if you have a 499 degree start because it approached the limit? Jeezus people... Learn your frickin systems.
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Old 07-17-2015, 04:51 PM
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This type of stuff does nothing but make the pilot look like a frickin moron. The airplane couldn't hold altitude at 330, huh? How heavy was the plane? What was the ISA deviation?

Skywest recently stalled a -200... I don't know how we haven't done the same with some of our rocket scientists at the controls.

The plane makes you nervous because it goes near the limit? Really? Do you return to the gate if you have a 499 degree start because it approached the limit? Jeezus people... Learn your frickin systems.
That sounds familiar. You seem to have a low opinion of our pilots like our g4 management does. Hmm... May I respectfully ask sir, what color is your hat?
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Old 07-17-2015, 05:12 PM
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I heard you guys actually believe that for every pilot you terminate he or she becomes your slave in the after life. Is it true my g4 management trolls?
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Old 07-17-2015, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by MD80driver2day View Post

Skywest recently stalled a -200... I don't know how we haven't done the same with some of our rocket scientists at the controls.
So people that shouldn't be at the controls ("some of our rocket scientists") are passed through the training department when they shouldn't be then? So another failure of our training department???
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Old 07-17-2015, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by disco inferno View Post

Quit if you're so afraid to work here and it sucks so bad. Actions speak louder than words. You all are lucky Allegiant doesn't have a court make APC cough up your IP addresses, track you down and have you fired. They would also be in a good position to sue you for slander. You should be grateful the people that GAS what you say are you and the other 6 or so guys that do nothing but play keyboard warrior all day on the interweb. I have no respect for people who complain and do nothing about it. .....


......Don't be a coward; shut up and quit already! have my reasons for being here and I owe nobody any explanations. If I felt as miserable and scared as some of you proclaim, I'd show myself the door.

Lighten up, Francis.
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Old 07-17-2015, 08:17 PM
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How did the allegiant meet and greet go the last couple of days?
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