Allegiant Air
07-27-2015, 03:58 PM
#3361
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Someone's definitely gonna get fired for such a colossal screw up... why, the dispatcher of course! Good thing they have union protectio... uh, nevermind.
P.S. - I'm dying to see if any analysts ask about this stuff at the earnings conference call.
P.S. - I'm dying to see if any analysts ask about this stuff at the earnings conference call.
07-27-2015, 06:57 PM
#3362
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Joined APC: Oct 2008
Position: CRJ 900
Posts: 131
Originally Posted by CLazarus
Someone's definitely gonna get fired for such a colossal screw up... why, the dispatcher of course! Good thing they have union protectio... uh, nevermind.
P.S. - I'm dying to see if any analysts ask about this stuff at the earnings conference call.
P.S. - I'm dying to see if any analysts ask about this stuff at the earnings conference call.
07-27-2015, 07:22 PM
#3363
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Joined APC: Oct 2008
Posts: 551
Justifiable per our GOM. Unwarranted per the company.
07-27-2015, 08:07 PM
#3364
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Posts: 61
Originally Posted by BE24pilot
Didn't that same guy just fire a captain for a totally justifiable evacuation.
Yeah, when he described for the pro standards board how firefighters told him there was smoke coming from the left engine, BL's exact words were, "Look, ARF is often poorly trained and those guys are just dying to hit an airplane with water and foam".
So, I don't know about you guys, but these days I'm suspicious of both chemtrails AND firefighters.
07-27-2015, 08:28 PM
#3365
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Man AAY is a messed up place. I mean it sounds like you'll get violated, fired or worse-DEAD! Has Valujet written all over it. Ironic huh.
Where the ******* is the FAA?
Where the ******* is the FAA?
07-27-2015, 09:22 PM
#3366
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For your viewing pleasure...
Allegiant flight almost made emergency landing in Fargo minutes before Blue Angels practiced last Thursday | WDAY
Best one I've seen so far.
Allegiant flight almost made emergency landing in Fargo minutes before Blue Angels practiced last Thursday | WDAY
Best one I've seen so far.
07-27-2015, 10:37 PM
#3367
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Joined APC: Jul 2015
Position: on the bench
Posts: 157
from the aforementioned news story-
"The FAA says that every flight is required to carry an extra 45 minutes of fuel, which should have been enough to divert the flight to Grand Forks. They tell us "Allegiant's operation center told the FAA the flight had an extra 45 minutes of fuel on board. However, as you know, the pilot said otherwise, and requested landing at Fargo."
"The FAA says that every flight is required to carry an extra 45 minutes of fuel, which should have been enough to divert the flight to Grand Forks. They tell us "Allegiant's operation center told the FAA the flight had an extra 45 minutes of fuel on board. However, as you know, the pilot said otherwise, and requested landing at Fargo."
Looks like someone has some splainin' to do.
Last edited by rokgpsman; 07-27-2015 at 11:04 PM.
07-27-2015, 10:42 PM
#3368
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§121.537 Responsibility for operational control: Supplemental operations.
(b) The pilot in command and the director of operations are jointly responsible for the initiation, continuation, diversion, and termination of a flight in compliance with this chapter and the operations specifications. The director of operations may delegate the functions for the initiation, continuation, diversion, and termination of a flight but he may not delegate the responsibility for those functions.
(c) The director of operations is responsible for cancelling, diverting, or delaying a flight if in his opinion or the opinion of the pilot in command the flight cannot operate or continue to operate safely as planned or released. The director of operations is responsible for assuring that each flight is monitored with respect to at least the following
3) Any known conditions that may adversely affect the safety of flight.
(e) Each pilot in command of an aircraft is responsible for the preflight planning and the operation of the flight in compliance with this chapter and the operations specifications.
Lets see: conflict of interest here? VP/Director of Ops = PIC. But wait; Dispatch and Chief Pilot report to VP.
Certainly the FAA will finally step in, right? The issue here is that definite and clear violations occurred. The CFR and GOM do NOT allow delegation of ultimate responsibility(read para b.) GB can't pass this down to anyone per regulatory guidance. This means dispatch is safe; and once again......GB must face either FAA enforcement action, or resign.
(b) The pilot in command and the director of operations are jointly responsible for the initiation, continuation, diversion, and termination of a flight in compliance with this chapter and the operations specifications. The director of operations may delegate the functions for the initiation, continuation, diversion, and termination of a flight but he may not delegate the responsibility for those functions.
(c) The director of operations is responsible for cancelling, diverting, or delaying a flight if in his opinion or the opinion of the pilot in command the flight cannot operate or continue to operate safely as planned or released. The director of operations is responsible for assuring that each flight is monitored with respect to at least the following
3) Any known conditions that may adversely affect the safety of flight.(e) Each pilot in command of an aircraft is responsible for the preflight planning and the operation of the flight in compliance with this chapter and the operations specifications.
Lets see: conflict of interest here? VP/Director of Ops = PIC. But wait; Dispatch and Chief Pilot report to VP.
Certainly the FAA will finally step in, right? The issue here is that definite and clear violations occurred. The CFR and GOM do NOT allow delegation of ultimate responsibility(read para b.) GB can't pass this down to anyone per regulatory guidance. This means dispatch is safe; and once again......GB must face either FAA enforcement action, or resign.
07-28-2015, 05:58 AM
#3369
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Posts: 442
Originally Posted by say again
Do you guys not get the notams in your flight plan packet?
All we have to do is sit in the seat, do a checklist, and drink coffee. Everything else is taken care of for us.
07-28-2015, 06:06 AM
#3370
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Originally Posted by Vegaspilot
For your viewing pleasure...
Allegiant flight almost made emergency landing in Fargo minutes before Blue Angels practiced last Thursday | WDAY
Best one I've seen so far.
Allegiant flight almost made emergency landing in Fargo minutes before Blue Angels practiced last Thursday | WDAY
Best one I've seen so far.
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