Allegiant Air
08-26-2015, 01:05 PM
#3722
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Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 390
I would imagine an early rotation and inability to lower the nose would be a bit hazardous for my taste. Getting airborne prematurely, then stalling out of ground effect, with roll due to asymmetric elevator. Sign me up!
Kudos to the crew that quickly recognized the problem and aborted. Another one of many saves.
Kudos to the crew that quickly recognized the problem and aborted. Another one of many saves.
08-26-2015, 02:01 PM
#3723
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Joined APC: Jan 2010
Position: MD80
Posts: 188
Originally Posted by knobcrk
Why are you?
08-26-2015, 02:09 PM
#3724
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Joined APC: Mar 2005
Position: Off to the left!
Posts: 464
Being unsafe is one of the things in a fairly long list of reasons why I decided to leave.
08-26-2015, 04:08 PM
#3725
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Joined APC: Oct 2013
Position: FO
Posts: 525
Originally Posted by Fetzervalve
Thanks for the update. Just confirms the shadiness I have heard about Allegiant from so many others. Sorry, but not interested in flying one of those older MD80s. The Airbus is at least 1990s technology.... I won't be SOL because I won't apply. Good luck to you!
Thanks!
08-26-2015, 04:36 PM
#3726
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Joined APC: Oct 2013
Position: FO
Posts: 525
Originally Posted by fishforfun
The stipend is $650 for FOs $1000 for CAs in Hawaii. It's not really a seat lock but an equipment lock. It is not 100% that they will be parking the 75s but sounds very likely due to upcoming scheduled heavy maintenance. If you are on the 80 you can bid CA on it as soon as you can hold it and same for the bus as long as you are already on that plane. They will allow some changes to that but it's overtly advertised, only if it benefits the company.
That said, a newer 757 FO will probably never see the left seat on it, that's the most senior flying in the system. Most of those CA's are lifers. So basically, your ARE seat locked on the 757 (unless something wacky happens) for two years, most of the 757 FOs upgrade directly into the MD in Florida.
In short, your better hope you get the Airbus.
Last edited by HVYMETALDRVR; 08-26-2015 at 05:18 PM.
08-26-2015, 04:42 PM
#3727
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jun 2015
Posts: 31
Every member of the Teamsters Airline Division should pay close attention to what Republic's Management is trying to do to the Republic pilot group. Management is attempting to circumvent the bargaining process, and directly send a “contract” to the pilot group for a vote. They are twisting the language of Article XII, Section 1 of the IBT Constitution in order to do this.
Article XII
STRIKES, LOCKOUTS, WAGE SCALES, DISPUTES OVER JURISDICTION
Strike Action by Local Unions
Section 1(a). When any difficulty or dispute arises between the members of any Local Union and their employers, it shall be the duty of the officers of such Local Union to use every possible means of achieving a settlement or resolution of the difficulty or dispute through the processes of collective bargaining.
(b). Agreements shall either be accepted by a majority vote of those members involved in negotiations and voting, or a majority of such members shall direct further negotiations before a final vote on the employer's offer is taken, as directed by the Local Union Executive Board. During negotiations, the Local Union Executive Board may order a secret ballot strike vote to be taken and when, in the judgment of the Local Union Executive Board, an employer has made a final offer of settlement, such offer must be submitted to the involved membership for a secret ballot vote as hereinafter provided;
(1) If at least one half of the members eligible to vote cast valid ballots, then a cumulative majority of those voting in favor of the final offer shall result in acceptance of such offer; and a cumulative majority of those voting against acceptance of the final offer shall authorize a strike without any additional vote being necessary for such strike authorization. In the event of a tie vote on either a motion to accept a final offer or to strike, the Local Union Executive Board shall conduct a second vote. If the result of the second vote is a tie, the Local Union Executive Board shall have the discretion to either accept the final offer or reject the final offer and authorize a strike at such time as it determines.
The company is ignoring various parts of this section. The Local Executive Board did not decide this was a “final offer of settlement,” nor is the company willing to except a strike as the result of a “cumulative majority of those voting against acceptance.” This section of the IBT constitution was not intended for those members who fall under the jurisdiction of the RLA. The company is trying to use only the first half of this paragraph to force a vote.
If Republic management is successful in circumventing the Local’s Executive Board and Negotiating Committee this will set a disastrous precedent for all Airline Division IBT members. What will happen to the negotiating process currently underway at Allegiant or GoJets or any other pilot group? All members need to pay close attention to this and voice their concerns with the IBT Airline Division.
Call 202-624-6848 or 800-635-3961 and let the ALD know how important it is to not let management circumvent the process.
Article XII
STRIKES, LOCKOUTS, WAGE SCALES, DISPUTES OVER JURISDICTION
Strike Action by Local Unions
Section 1(a). When any difficulty or dispute arises between the members of any Local Union and their employers, it shall be the duty of the officers of such Local Union to use every possible means of achieving a settlement or resolution of the difficulty or dispute through the processes of collective bargaining.
(b). Agreements shall either be accepted by a majority vote of those members involved in negotiations and voting, or a majority of such members shall direct further negotiations before a final vote on the employer's offer is taken, as directed by the Local Union Executive Board. During negotiations, the Local Union Executive Board may order a secret ballot strike vote to be taken and when, in the judgment of the Local Union Executive Board, an employer has made a final offer of settlement, such offer must be submitted to the involved membership for a secret ballot vote as hereinafter provided;
(1) If at least one half of the members eligible to vote cast valid ballots, then a cumulative majority of those voting in favor of the final offer shall result in acceptance of such offer; and a cumulative majority of those voting against acceptance of the final offer shall authorize a strike without any additional vote being necessary for such strike authorization. In the event of a tie vote on either a motion to accept a final offer or to strike, the Local Union Executive Board shall conduct a second vote. If the result of the second vote is a tie, the Local Union Executive Board shall have the discretion to either accept the final offer or reject the final offer and authorize a strike at such time as it determines.
The company is ignoring various parts of this section. The Local Executive Board did not decide this was a “final offer of settlement,” nor is the company willing to except a strike as the result of a “cumulative majority of those voting against acceptance.” This section of the IBT constitution was not intended for those members who fall under the jurisdiction of the RLA. The company is trying to use only the first half of this paragraph to force a vote.
If Republic management is successful in circumventing the Local’s Executive Board and Negotiating Committee this will set a disastrous precedent for all Airline Division IBT members. What will happen to the negotiating process currently underway at Allegiant or GoJets or any other pilot group? All members need to pay close attention to this and voice their concerns with the IBT Airline Division.
Call 202-624-6848 or 800-635-3961 and let the ALD know how important it is to not let management circumvent the process.
08-26-2015, 04:44 PM
#3728
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Joined APC: Aug 2011
Position: Hoping for any position
Posts: 2,504
Originally Posted by HVYMETALDRVR
Thanks for correcting me about that, as you can see I'm not on the 757.
That said, a newer 757 FO will probably never see the left seat on it, that's the most senior flying in the system. Most of those CA's are lifers. So basically, your ARE seat locked on the 757 (unless something wacky happens) for two years, most of those guys upgrade directly into the MD or AB.
That said, a newer 757 FO will probably never see the left seat on it, that's the most senior flying in the system. Most of those CA's are lifers. So basically, your ARE seat locked on the 757 (unless something wacky happens) for two years, most of those guys upgrade directly into the MD or AB.
08-26-2015, 06:32 PM
#3729
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Joined APC: May 2012
Posts: 520
Can anybody spare a few tires out in Austin?! 
08-26-2015, 06:36 PM
#3730
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Joined APC: Sep 2013
Posts: 100
Originally Posted by crxpilot
Can anybody spare a few tires out in Austin?!
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