Ah "Packrat". Still trolling and trying to pretend you don't work here I see.

You need some new material. You're a one trick pony with your "everyone who disagrees with me is management" mantra. How many accounts do you have with APC anyway?

 

Just out of curiosity, how long have you been at Allegiant?

There are a lot of problems, most of which can't be addressed in a contract. The other problem with a contract, once one is finally reached, is enforcement. Management has already proven they won't follow a binding agreement with the PWR, and those were pretty basic. What makes you think they will follow a contract?

How do you know a contract will be for much more money? Do you know what the negotiating committee is asking for? There's more to a contract than just pay rates. What about retirement? Insurance? Would you take less money to make those better? What about a scheduling system? PBS will never work, no matter what they call it, when there aren't enough pilots.

In the time since I left, I've written a lot of recommendation letters for people looking to leave, including for a few I barely knew. Even one of the management pilots I know is seriously considering leaving. Does that tell you anything about the operation??

 

Its very funny to see that every pilot whines and bashes airlines and yet still they show up to their job fairs and pretty much looking desperate for a job. No airline is perfect, i think everyone has enough experience to learn that by now. Regional, LLC or a LEGACY, they all have their pros and cons. I am a regional first officer and have LEGACY pilots jumpseating and there still whining and complaining of how things can be better. No Airline can satisfy every pilot in the company, it never has happened and it never will. So rather than bashing airlines on forums, just get what you can from the experience and move on in your careers. It is simple as that. Allegiant may have issues, but still its not a bad airline at all i think. I recently went to a job fair and there were 20 pilots waiting to talk to the reps there and more than half of them were from Republic and 747 cargo guys. So use them for what you can to move on in your career or a better QOL whatever is important for you.

 

One trick pony? Who is on here always saying, "what regional are you going to?" Or, "why don't you just quit?" If you do a little bit of looking around it is pretty obvious that Packrat doesn't work for G4. Before you start with these off the wall arguments please do a little research. And yes, you sound like an all too familiar management pilot that not a single pilot in the group respects. If you aren't him, then I'm sure you'll be working along side him before too long.

 

Thank you, VG. No, I don't work for Allegiant. It just disturbs me to see an airline managed into being a daily safety threat. So far, its only the efforts of the pilots that have kept Allegiant from numerous smoking holes in the desert/swamp and becoming synonomous with Valujet.

The reddest flag of all was the FAR incident. That illustrates that management is willing to throw the "emergency" flag where none exists to avoid the costs of a diversion. That and firing a Captain who very correctly evacuated an airplane with smoke in the cabin.

Safety appears to be lip service at Allegiant. That's why I actively encourage my friends and family to avoid Allegiant at all costs.

 

Wow! Packrat has gone off the deep end. You're quoting yourself now with your other APC alias. They have meds for that sort of thing now.

For someone that doesn't work here, you seem to devote a lot of time to the Allegiant thread. In post #3789, you seem to know quite a bit about the MD80 for someone who doesn't work here. In post #3793 you as "why would anyone want to work HERE"? What an odd way to phrase a question. If I worked somewhere else, I would have said "why would anyone want to work there"?

You are a sad little troll Valuegiant, I mean Packrat.

 

Mod Note:

Enough of the "my pee pee is bigger than your pee pee" competition. I'm not going to delete any posts, but will start giving out infractions for the next post(s) that of a similar nature. Keep discussions to Allegiant and not on attacking individual users.

 

Thank you vagabond.

I think that people can make their own decisions as to the facts. I am still amazed these multiple events hasn't triggered at least a freeze in growth from the FAA. With so many inflight shutdowns, air/gate returns, the Fargo incident, the recent flight control failure, etc. you'd think this would trigger a re certification event.

I credit Alligiant for coming up with a product that folks want to buy. But I am appalled how poorly they care for their employees. And anyone who thinks that this is a safe way to run an airline maintenance wise is either a true idiot, or a callous monster who cares nothing for people's lives.

 

The FAA did "freeze growth" several months ago when there were "labor issues".....for several weeks the place was crawling with feds who evidently were satisfied with what they saw because the "freeze" was lifted. I would guess maybe this is being revisited. It's a definite concern.

 

I wouldn't say people WANT to buy Allegiant's products. The people that ride ALGT are the folks who would take Greyhound or drive because they can't afford a real airline ticket. That why they live in the places ALGT flies to.

That is the truth.