disco inferno

Remember kids... going from a major to a regional is an astounding career move. Why fly at an airline with experienced professionals and six figure income potential, when you can fly for a regional. You could be flying with a 22 year old FO who just graduated 3 months ago if only you are lucky enough to get on at a regional. You will be way safer flying with someone who until 8 weeks ago was flying 172's with Chinese kids.

Let's not forget how lucrative regional captain and FO pay can be. Sure you'll have to buy food for your family with food stamps the first year. Don't worry, with your massive $21,000 a year salary, you'll qualify. When you upgrade, the big bucks really roll in. At PSA, 2nd year captain pay is a whole $59,000! Wow!!!! Just think of the used double wide you'll be able to buy with that kind of scratch. Just don't finance your trailer for too long. You never know when your regional might lose their contract.

I'm sure you'll fine your new career at a regional both long and rewarding. Enjoy!!

disco inferno

It's tiresome to read whiny posts from the same 5 or 6 people. None of them have the sack to quit, which destroys their credibility of just how bad they say everything is here. A few of them seem to have made a part time job of bashing Allegiant. They make laps around different pilot message boards and post only to bash Allegiant. Some of you guys are truly pathetic.

Allegiant has issues for sure. It will never be the same as working for a legacy. There are a few things that are absolutly true about Allegiant. We will get a contract eventually. It will be for much more money that we make now. We are the most profitable airline in the world. You can't make gains without profits.

Allegiant is head over heals better than any regional ever could be. We sell our own tickets and own our own planes. No regional can compare. We don't have to worry about being whipsawed by some other cut throat regional every couple of years for flying. The current pay at Allegiant is also better that any regional. No regional line captain makes over $150 per hour.

There is no silencing the Allegiant haters here. Actions speak louder than words. Why are they all still here if they are so afraid for their safety? Why haven't they all left for the glamorous and safe regioanls yet? They are all talk.

After we get a contract, the same guys will be gloating about their wise decision to come here and stay.

Vegaspilot

No contract is going to fix our operational or MX issues and being handed a contract tomorrow without addressing that wouldn't change my mind about this place. Look if you're ok with the operation and our MX and can climb aboard our planes without being a little nervous every time, good for you. But then again I've never accused you of having any common sense and I'm not about to start now.

Packrat

disco inferno,

Thank you Mr. Management. Had your FAA interview regarding your "emergency" fuel problem at FAR yet?

AZbound

Haha! Seriously... 😂

disco inferno

Ah "Packrat". Still trolling and trying to pretend you don't work here I see.

You need some new material. You're a one trick pony with your "everyone who disagrees with me is management" mantra. How many accounts do you have with APC anyway?

eagleatr

Just out of curiosity, how long have you been at Allegiant?

There are a lot of problems, most of which can't be addressed in a contract. The other problem with a contract, once one is finally reached, is enforcement. Management has already proven they won't follow a binding agreement with the PWR, and those were pretty basic. What makes you think they will follow a contract?

How do you know a contract will be for much more money? Do you know what the negotiating committee is asking for? There's more to a contract than just pay rates. What about retirement? Insurance? Would you take less money to make those better? What about a scheduling system? PBS will never work, no matter what they call it, when there aren't enough pilots.

In the time since I left, I've written a lot of recommendation letters for people looking to leave, including for a few I barely knew. Even one of the management pilots I know is seriously considering leaving. Does that tell you anything about the operation??

ilsbird

Its very funny to see that every pilot whines and bashes airlines and yet still they show up to their job fairs and pretty much looking desperate for a job. No airline is perfect, i think everyone has enough experience to learn that by now. Regional, LLC or a LEGACY, they all have their pros and cons. I am a regional first officer and have LEGACY pilots jumpseating and there still whining and complaining of how things can be better. No Airline can satisfy every pilot in the company, it never has happened and it never will. So rather than bashing airlines on forums, just get what you can from the experience and move on in your careers. It is simple as that. Allegiant may have issues, but still its not a bad airline at all i think. I recently went to a job fair and there were 20 pilots waiting to talk to the reps there and more than half of them were from Republic and 747 cargo guys. So use them for what you can to move on in your career or a better QOL whatever is important for you.

ValuGiant

One trick pony? Who is on here always saying, "what regional are you going to?" Or, "why don't you just quit?" If you do a little bit of looking around it is pretty obvious that Packrat doesn't work for G4. Before you start with these off the wall arguments please do a little research. And yes, you sound like an all too familiar management pilot that not a single pilot in the group respects. If you aren't him, then I'm sure you'll be working along side him before too long.

Packrat

Thank you, VG. No, I don't work for Allegiant. It just disturbs me to see an airline managed into being a daily safety threat. So far, its only the efforts of the pilots that have kept Allegiant from numerous smoking holes in the desert/swamp and becoming synonomous with Valujet.

The reddest flag of all was the FAR incident. That illustrates that management is willing to throw the "emergency" flag where none exists to avoid the costs of a diversion. That and firing a Captain who very correctly evacuated an airplane with smoke in the cabin.

Safety appears to be lip service at Allegiant. That's why I actively encourage my friends and family to avoid Allegiant at all costs.