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Old 12-29-2015 | 02:27 PM
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Old 12-29-2015 | 03:06 PM
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I'd like to congratulate the Allegiant pilot who slid off the taxiway in Wichita last night for his outstanding airmanship.

I'm not saying that departing the taxiway was unavoidable. But he certainly showed his flying skills during his previous leg by droning at 170 knots for 20 miles into a 50 knot headwind in moderate icing. I have no idea why he was going so damn slow--we closed a 25 mile gap down to 5 by landing. We flew as fast as we safely could (250 knots until 2 miles from marker) and were fully configured and on speed by 1500' (and beneath the cloud deck). We still looked like a Christmas ornament after landing with a heavy coating of icing wherever we didn't have anit-ice to keep the plane clean. I can only imagine what his plane looked like.

I was angry that approach had to put us on such a long final because he was going so slow that far out into a 50 knot headwind. I kept my mouth shut at the time--but had a wry smile when I heard that the winds pushed the same crew off the taxiway later that night.

I expect a little negative karma--but wanted to high light the CA who did such a wonderful job last night.
The 80 can't come down in icing conditions clean, it just doesn't work. Chances are the crew had to configure the airplane in order to descend with enough power to keep the wings hot. Some of the 80's require a lot. Maybe they were flying at flap speed with the power up to keep the ice protection working. A reasonable explanation other than just poor piloting.
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Old 12-29-2015 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Bwipilot
I'd like to congratulate the Allegiant pilot who slid off the taxiway in Wichita last night for his outstanding airmanship.

I'm not saying that departing the taxiway was unavoidable. But he certainly showed his flying skills during his previous leg by droning at 170 knots for 20 miles into a 50 knot headwind in moderate icing. I have no idea why he was going so damn slow--we closed a 25 mile gap down to 5 by landing. We flew as fast as we safely could (250 knots until 2 miles from marker) and were fully configured and on speed by 1500' (and beneath the cloud deck). We still looked like a Christmas ornament after landing with a heavy coating of icing wherever we didn't have anit-ice to keep the plane clean. I can only imagine what his plane looked like.

I was angry that approach had to put us on such a long final because he was going so slow that far out into a 50 knot headwind. I kept my mouth shut at the time--but had a wry smile when I heard that the winds pushed the same crew off the taxiway later that night.

I expect a little negative karma--but wanted to high light the CA who did such a wonderful job last night.
So you came in from MDW and they came in from LAS (opposite direction), only one runway was open in IFR conditions and ATC put you 25 miles in trail. Were they following some one in.... maybe a King Air... Were they slowed by ATC... someone pull the tapes.

If I cried and whined every time I had to slam on the brakes due to SWA flying every step down on an approach at ref +5, I'd be and angry bitter APC flamer.

Enjoy your incoming karma
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Old 12-29-2015 | 04:46 PM
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Alaska Airlines pilot mistakes taxiway for runway at Sea-Tac

Dec 29, 2015

An Alaska Airlines passenger jet landed on Seattle-Tacoma International Airport’s central taxiway – not the runway – on Dec. 19, the fourth time a pilot has made the error in the history of the airport.

Nobody was hurt in the 8:33 a.m. incident, and the Boeing 737-900, Flight 27 from Chicago, brought all passengers to the terminal without issue.

Both Alaska Airlines (NYSE: ALK) and the Federal Aviation Administration are investigating the incident, but neither spokesmen for the organizations would elaborate on what happened or whether any actions, if any, have been taken since.


Alaska Airlines pilot mistakes taxiway for runway at Sea-Tac during busy holiday rush - Puget Sound Business Journal

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Old 12-29-2015 | 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by rokking566
Will Allegiant hire without a college degree? Is Phoenix currently a junior base?
Yes and no.
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Old 12-30-2015 | 06:48 AM
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[QUOTE=rokgpsman;2036622]oops!
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Alaska Airlines pilot mistakes taxiway for runway at Sea-Tac

These guys had college degrees.....
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Old 12-30-2015 | 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Bwipilot
I'd like to congratulate the Allegiant pilot who slid off the taxiway in Wichita last night for his outstanding airmanship.

I'm not saying that departing the taxiway was unavoidable. But he certainly showed his flying skills during his previous leg by droning at 170 knots for 20 miles into a 50 knot headwind in moderate icing. I have no idea why he was going so damn slow--we closed a 25 mile gap down to 5 by landing. We flew as fast as we safely could (250 knots until 2 miles from marker) and were fully configured and on speed by 1500' (and beneath the cloud deck). We still looked like a Christmas ornament after landing with a heavy coating of icing wherever we didn't have anit-ice to keep the plane clean. I can only imagine what his plane looked like.

I was angry that approach had to put us on such a long final because he was going so slow that far out into a 50 knot headwind. I kept my mouth shut at the time--but had a wry smile when I heard that the winds pushed the same crew off the taxiway later that night.

I expect a little negative karma--but wanted to high light the CA who did such a wonderful job last night.

Words can't express how much of a tool you just made yourself into. Speaking of karma.... may you get explosive diarrhea just after you say V1 Rotate...
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Old 12-30-2015 | 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Bwipilot
I'd like to congratulate the Allegiant pilot who slid off the taxiway in Wichita last night for his outstanding airmanship.


I kept my mouth shut at the time--but had a wry smile when I heard that the winds pushed the same crew off the taxiway later that night.

I expect a little negative karma--but wanted to high light the CA who did such a wonderful job last night.
Come on Bwipilot... Admit it... you're really the Chief Turd Hearse Driver in BWI. I mean a professional pilot would never wish harm to another, let alone his crew and passengers.

You Bwipilot are Tool of the Year.
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Old 12-30-2015 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Bwipilot
I'd like to congratulate the Allegiant pilot who slid off the taxiway in Wichita last night for his outstanding airmanship.

I'm not saying that departing the taxiway was unavoidable. But he certainly showed his flying skills during his previous leg by droning at 170 knots for 20 miles into a 50 knot headwind in moderate icing. I have no idea why he was going so damn slow--we closed a 25 mile gap down to 5 by landing. We flew as fast as we safely could (250 knots until 2 miles from marker) and were fully configured and on speed by 1500' (and beneath the cloud deck). We still looked like a Christmas ornament after landing with a heavy coating of icing wherever we didn't have anit-ice to keep the plane clean. I can only imagine what his plane looked like.

I was angry that approach had to put us on such a long final because he was going so slow that far out into a 50 knot headwind. I kept my mouth shut at the time--but had a wry smile when I heard that the winds pushed the same crew off the taxiway later that night.

I expect a little negative karma--but wanted to high light the CA who did such a wonderful job last night.
So I heard the story from the crew and what this Tool Bag didn't say or doesn't know is the AAY crew was delayed on the gate waiting for SWA to be unloaded because they have priority (Man those pizza's come in handy). If the AAY crew was able to leave on time they would have beat the freezing rain that shut the airport down.

bwipilot you are the TOOL OF THE CENTURY
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Old 12-30-2015 | 06:02 PM
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http://www.wday.com/news/3913589-over-100-allegiant-passengers-change-travel-plans-after-emergency-landing-fargo
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