Allegiant Air
#2501
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2015
Position: A-320
Posts: 680
And you are dead wrong. The number 2 engine seized on power up for the Go-Around. Nice little pile of molten titanium bits lays on the bottom of the exhaust cowl. Gust is conveniently leaving that nice little detail out.
Imagine that, at TOGA, 50’ and it literally shredded.
Imagine that, at TOGA, 50’ and it literally shredded.
#2503
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2011
Position: Hoping for any position
Posts: 2,505
#2505
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Joined APC: Aug 2015
Posts: 136
#2506
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Joined APC: Apr 2016
Posts: 116
While I'm still waiting on proof of this being catastrophic or just a flame out, regardless we shouldn't have this kinda stuff low to the ground. If that was a go around due to a windshear event it could have been unrecoverable.
#2507
Swimmin' in da pool
Joined APC: Jan 2014
Posts: 444
Looking at the pictures of chewed up blades in the exhaust, it's immediately evident that the engine went. Sounds like some great airmanship saved g4's bacon again. Not surprised about an email downplaying the event. That is managements playbook, they have done that all along which is why these incidents keep happening. 13 years of blowing engines and they still happen every other week. Coincidence? Does anyone honestly believe they really care? Not so long as the profits keep rolling in. Could these incidents have been reduced or mitigated with better maintenance? Absolutely. What about newer airplanes instead of trashed out poorly maintained foreign junk. That too. Quite simply, It boils down to spending what is required to run a safe airline instead of raw pursuit of profit at all cost.
Life threatening events have become routine, and aircrews have grown accustomed to the absurd, as seen by comments on this forum. Pilots joining the management chorus, downplaying and making excuses for a company that has lost upwards of 100 engines in flight. Never mind the flight control malfunctions, depressurization's, evacuations, the list goes on. All entirely unacceptable for ANY flight operation, never mind a 121. Given the number of inflight shutdowns and the number of airplanes in their fleet it's crazy they're allowed to keep their certificate. Scaling out the size of the allegiant fleet to that of a major operator, there would be 10 times the number of failures. Does anyone believe the FAA and the public would tolerate such an abomination?
Management was amazed when engine failures weren't limited to the MD-80s and started blowing on the 757s. Now the Airbus. Not surprising as the ops team is apparently now lead by bean counters who know zip about maintenance and operations. Low time pilots, combined with garbage maintenance, beat up airplanes, remote destinations, and a negligent management all combine for a very disturbing picture.
Formula for disaster, history repeating itself. Kudos to the pilots, those passengers have no idea what those guys did. They never do.
Life threatening events have become routine, and aircrews have grown accustomed to the absurd, as seen by comments on this forum. Pilots joining the management chorus, downplaying and making excuses for a company that has lost upwards of 100 engines in flight. Never mind the flight control malfunctions, depressurization's, evacuations, the list goes on. All entirely unacceptable for ANY flight operation, never mind a 121. Given the number of inflight shutdowns and the number of airplanes in their fleet it's crazy they're allowed to keep their certificate. Scaling out the size of the allegiant fleet to that of a major operator, there would be 10 times the number of failures. Does anyone believe the FAA and the public would tolerate such an abomination?
Management was amazed when engine failures weren't limited to the MD-80s and started blowing on the 757s. Now the Airbus. Not surprising as the ops team is apparently now lead by bean counters who know zip about maintenance and operations. Low time pilots, combined with garbage maintenance, beat up airplanes, remote destinations, and a negligent management all combine for a very disturbing picture.
Formula for disaster, history repeating itself. Kudos to the pilots, those passengers have no idea what those guys did. They never do.
Last edited by dawgdriver; 04-29-2016 at 08:38 AM.
#2508
New Hire
Joined APC: May 2015
Posts: 8
#2509
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Joined APC: Apr 2016
Posts: 30
It's not that you were wrong, its that you were (and continue to be) an ass about it, despite having no reason to be...I certainly didn't do anything to you. I realized that there are some pretty poor examples on this thread, but It's not very hard to be civil to others....even when you disagree.
You should try it.
You should try it.
#2510
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Joined APC: Apr 2016
Posts: 30
"Not surprising as the ops team is apparently now lead by bean counters who know zip about maintenance and operations. Low time pilots, combined with garbage maintenance, beat up airplanes, remote destinations, and a negligent management all combine for a very disturbing picture."
I don't understand this strategy but who am I to tell them? I expect will come back to bite them big time but the thing is they don't know what they don't know and that is the scariest part. EG in particular is threatened by anyone with more industry experience and knowledge than him and that is dumb, dumb, dumb....he should embrace those who could "possibly" make him look good. The fact that JB allows him to assemble this low experience team is even worse.
I don't understand this strategy but who am I to tell them? I expect will come back to bite them big time but the thing is they don't know what they don't know and that is the scariest part. EG in particular is threatened by anyone with more industry experience and knowledge than him and that is dumb, dumb, dumb....he should embrace those who could "possibly" make him look good. The fact that JB allows him to assemble this low experience team is even worse.
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