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04-19-2017, 06:26 PM
#5391
Banned
Joined APC: Dec 2009
Position: Narrow/Left Wide/Right
Posts: 3,655
Originally Posted by JustWatching
It's also been said that I have a 12 inch co.... we'll, you get the picture.
See above... Just because it's on the internet (or in a FB post by MB
) doesn't make it true.
Attrition: If you look carefully through the seniority list it's minimal. The few people that have left have been primarily from the bottom of the list with a few recently upgraded (12-18 month) -80 guys. We've had 4 or 5 go to Delta.
There will be no pay raise to stem attrition and it's just not how our management team rolls. In addition, a $20 an hour raise doesn't solve any problem. IF someone really wanted to start a good (believable) rumor, they should say that to stem attrition the company is FINALLY going to purchase a true scheduling system that ACTUALLY honors seniority and hire additional help in payroll so our pay is correct more than it's not.
See above... Just because it's on the internet (or in a FB post by MB
) doesn't make it true. Attrition: If you look carefully through the seniority list it's minimal. The few people that have left have been primarily from the bottom of the list with a few recently upgraded (12-18 month) -80 guys. We've had 4 or 5 go to Delta.
There will be no pay raise to stem attrition and it's just not how our management team rolls. In addition, a $20 an hour raise doesn't solve any problem. IF someone really wanted to start a good (believable) rumor, they should say that to stem attrition the company is FINALLY going to purchase a true scheduling system that ACTUALLY honors seniority and hire additional help in payroll so our pay is correct more than it's not.
04-19-2017, 06:56 PM
#5392
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2016
Position: jets
Posts: 220
Originally Posted by jegermeister
That doesn't make any sense. Why would the company commit to a long term cost for a short term problem? And if it's junior people leaving, then why would they make an across the board raise?
Attrition was planned at 6 per month. I believe we're close to that. Some people will leave for bigger jets or pay, but I don't see an exodus.
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Attrition was planned at 6 per month. I believe we're close to that. Some people will leave for bigger jets or pay, but I don't see an exodus.
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I don't make this stuff up, just spread it around if I've heard it more than once.
04-19-2017, 08:17 PM
#5393
Kabuki Kool
Joined APC: Jul 2016
Position: fu3king.airline@Furlough. DNA
Posts: 447
Originally Posted by jegermeister
That doesn't make any sense. Why would the company commit to a long term cost for a short term problem? And if it's junior people leaving, then why would they make an across the board raise?
Attrition was planned at 6 per month. I believe we're close to that. Some people will leave for bigger jets or pay, but I don't see an exodus.
Attrition was planned at 6 per month. I believe we're close to that. Some people will leave for bigger jets or pay, but I don't see an exodus.
Didn’t work out so good. Hence the TA at Horizon. There wouldn’t be a bonus offered to new hire FOs without our approval. And we wouldn’t allow that without a bumP for everyone.
04-20-2017, 03:30 AM
#5394
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2013
Posts: 2,940
Originally Posted by FreshWater
Reference the new horizon TA scenario. Horizon tried to pay new hire FOs a bonus to attract and keep them. But they were in violation of the contract that pertains to pay. Horizon, nor can G4 offer more pay to new hires without an LOA from our union. Offering pay for one select group violates the contract. Or they can try and do what Horizon did before their TA now, and offer a no strings attached one time lump sum of money before officially becoming an employee.
Didn’t work out so good. Hence the TA at Horizon. There wouldn’t be a bonus offered to new hire FOs without our approval. And we wouldn’t allow that without a bumP for everyone.
Didn’t work out so good. Hence the TA at Horizon. There wouldn’t be a bonus offered to new hire FOs without our approval. And we wouldn’t allow that without a bumP for everyone.
04-20-2017, 10:08 AM
#5396
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2005
Posts: 442
Originally Posted by JustWatching
It's also been said that I have a 12 inch co.... we'll, you get the picture.
See above... Just because it's on the internet (or in a FB post by MB) doesn't make it true.
Attrition: If you look carefully through the seniority list it's minimal. The few people that have left have been primarily from the bottom of the list with a few recently upgraded (12-18 month) -80 guys. We've had 4 or 5 go to Delta.
There will be no pay raise to stem attrition and it's just not how our management team rolls. In addition, a $20 an hour raise doesn't solve any problem. IF someone really wanted to start a good (believable) rumor, they should say that to stem attrition the company is FINALLY going to purchase a true scheduling system that ACTUALLY honors seniority and hire additional help in payroll so our pay is correct more than it's not.
See above... Just because it's on the internet (or in a FB post by MB
) doesn't make it true. Attrition: If you look carefully through the seniority list it's minimal. The few people that have left have been primarily from the bottom of the list with a few recently upgraded (12-18 month) -80 guys. We've had 4 or 5 go to Delta.
There will be no pay raise to stem attrition and it's just not how our management team rolls. In addition, a $20 an hour raise doesn't solve any problem. IF someone really wanted to start a good (believable) rumor, they should say that to stem attrition the company is FINALLY going to purchase a true scheduling system that ACTUALLY honors seniority and hire additional help in payroll so our pay is correct more than it's not.
The $20 raise is more believable.
04-20-2017, 12:37 PM
#5397
On Reserve
Joined APC: Apr 2014
Posts: 21
Originally Posted by N1sync
The company doesn't have the ability per the CBA to modify just first year pay, they'll have to modify them all or we will never vote for it. The rumor is that we'll be getting the raise so we can be competitive At the job fairs. Once Spirit gets the rates they want we'll be back feeding on the bottom.
I don't make this stuff up, just spread it around if I've heard it more than once.
I don't make this stuff up, just spread it around if I've heard it more than once.
So you're telling me theres a chance?? YEAA!!!
04-21-2017, 12:42 PM
#5398
Banned
Joined APC: Apr 2014
Position: Da Bus
Posts: 481
Originally Posted by N1sync
Other persistent rumor seems to be $20/hr across the board raise to slow attrition
04-22-2017, 12:39 AM
#5399
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2012
Posts: 549
Seems like hiring is doing just fine and they don't plan growth until the end of the decade, so the need is low. Once the end of the decade hits, so does contract negotiations, and that will probably be a good motivation for higher pay.
04-22-2017, 06:51 PM
#5400
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2016
Position: jets
Posts: 220
Originally Posted by disco inferno
There definitely won't be a $20 across the board raise. There are no plans for 321's or any widebodies any time soon.
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