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Old 11-05-2018 | 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ecam
Do you fly with a lot of these people who were hired in the last 2-3 years? Most of them left a cushy job as a regional captain and took a huge pay cut. They were sold they would be back in the left seat in a few years making even more money and be home every night. Instead they are looking at no movement, no upgrades indefinitely, 5+ years after that to hold a line as a captain and getting TDY'd or stuck in a base they don't want. They feel lied to and swindled.

Then they see the company getting out bid for airplanes we were sure to get and instead investing in go karts and hotels. That huge swimming pool! Why should they believe anything the company says at this point when they have been lied to at every turn and every big airline is hiring? These people are about to exodus and who is going to replace them when we start hiring again after they spread the word?

Your optimism is admirable. Maybe you're that ray of sunshine guy. Not everyone shares it. I say it all the time, but I'm glad I retire soon.
Ummm, nope I sure don't fly with those guys... They are probably still in the right seat (where I am). However, if you believe anything a recruiter tells you, then I have some lovely beach front property to sell you.... (I listened to a recruiter once, 20+ years later I retired from the military...)

I am optimistic because I am in control of how I react to what is thrown at me. *****ing and whining about everything that happens to you doesn't do anything but make you and everyone around you miserable. I have been in MUCH worse working conditions for a hell of a lot longer than 6-8 hours. Give me a break... Also, please tell me what regional job is "cushy."

As for the Ray of Sunshine guy, not it... And although I think his politics are leaning the wrong way, he has a good attitude and deals with the daily stuff they way it should be dealt with. No one here is even on the bottom rung of the crappy job ladder. If you think your life is crappy here, feel free to get a real job. If you are miserable here, being home every night, FedEx/Delta money won't make you happy...
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Old 11-07-2018 | 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by ecam
...Then these pilots turn around and brag how much better they are without that heavy wallet under them. It's stupid and self destructive.

...we as a pilot group need to stop this nonsense of tearing each other apart because we disagree with their political beliefs or lifestyle choices. That crap has no place in any cockpit anywhere. Respect your coworkers.
As much as I completely agree with the second paragraph, it appears to contradict the first.
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Old 11-07-2018 | 07:30 AM
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Old 11-07-2018 | 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by tomgoodman
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Might as well shut it down and we'll start a new thread. It's not a contest on how long it runs.
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Old 11-07-2018 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by tomgoodman
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Did I miss some political stuff? I need t look back a few pages I guess...
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Old 11-07-2018 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by akulahunter
Did I miss some political stuff? I need t look back a few pages I guess...
Everyone lost their minds because I called #rayofsunshine a liberal(as if it was a secret).
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Old 11-08-2018 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Beretta01
Everyone lost their minds because I called #rayofsunshine a liberal(as if it was a secret).
And I responded to that with my disbelief Beretta01 would show up and bash a fellow pilot ("Ray") for something as petty as their political beliefs, especially after he ran (and lost) for EXCO Chairman and wanted to represent us. I opined that he must wonder why he flies with so many reserve FOs too.

It was all removed by the hall monitor, as i'm sure this will be too. Whether Beretta01 reported it or not is unknown at this time. I think it's only fair to call him out on bringing politics to the cockpit again if he's going to post it again.
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Old 11-08-2018 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by ecam
And I responded to that with my disbelief Beretta01 would show up and bash a fellow pilot ("Ray") for something as petty as their political beliefs, especially after he ran (and lost) for EXCO Chairman and wanted to represent us. I opined that he must wonder why he flies with so many reserve FOs too.

It was all removed by the hall monitor, as i'm sure this will be too. Whether Beretta01 reported it or not is unknown at this time. I think it's only fair to call him out on bringing politics to the cockpit again if he's going to post it again.
100% Agree. I could care less what anyone’s politics beliefs are.
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Old 11-08-2018 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ecam
especially after he ran (and lost) for EXCO Chairman and wanted to represent us. I opined that he must wonder why he flies with so many reserve FOs too.
I almost forgot to address this in the original post: I’m definitely not who you think I am.....but, admittedly, I can see why you think I’m him, LOL!
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Old 11-09-2018 | 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Beretta01
I almost forgot to address this in the original post: I’m definitely not who you think I am.....but, admittedly, I can see why you think I’m him, LOL!
I would not expect you to claim otherwise. You're not fooling anyone.
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