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Old 11-13-2015 | 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted by LotsaTypes
Allegiant fires Capt. K for creating bad publicity.....
Wonder what they are thinking now?

Good piece on GMA aired just after 0730 EDT this morning.
Hope the good Captain gets em' for a BOAT LOAD in his suit.$$$$

Pilot Files Wrongful-Termination Lawsuit Against Allegiant Air Video - ABC News
wow.. the ignorance of management. Of course watching the video after the fact you can tell the jet wasn't on fire, but the Captain has no external view during the scenario and all he has is a cabin crew reporting a burning smell and a ground crew reporting smoke. I'd make the same decision with that same information, don't know anyone who wouldn't.
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Old 11-13-2015 | 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by LVRJ
The Review-Journal has documented more than 20 emergency landings and aborted takeoffs by Allegiant this year
...wait, WHAT?
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Old 11-13-2015 | 05:23 AM
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Normally the standing company comment for any company is "we don't comment on pending litigation " but with all the bad press lately maybe they will have something to say.

My feeling is the company made a bad decision and should have used the event as a training scenario assuming the crew made a bad call which has yet to be proven in my opinion. But heaven forbid an actual evacuation is required and the crew fails to act out of job reprisal fear that will be the end of allegiant.

Airlines have captains to make decisions on the items that don't necessarily appear in a company manual or things that aren't exactly covered in training. Otherwise we wouldn't need captains, we would just have 'operators '.

It seems to me with the limited known information that the company made a bad decision. Good luck making your case to a jury. I see the company wanting to settle this quick.
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Old 11-13-2015 | 05:34 AM
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Who was calling them on the radio, telling them (the crew) to hold off on the evacuation?
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Old 11-13-2015 | 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by navigatro
Who was calling them on the radio, telling them (the crew) to hold off on the evacuation?
Good question. Now assume you are the captain in that situation. What do you do?
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Old 11-13-2015 | 05:57 AM
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What really galls me is the ignoramus on the radio telling him to "hold the evacuation."

What a **** bag operation seriously ...looks like SMS is doing alot of good here.
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Old 11-13-2015 | 06:07 AM
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Let's not forget a pilot in need.

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Old 11-13-2015 | 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by navigatro
Who was calling them on the radio, telling them (the crew) to hold off on the evacuation?
Could it have been a pilot in a nearby aircraft, saw there was no fire, spoke up but then decided he didn't want to stop the evacuation since it seemed the safest thing to do and that Captain K has already began it?

There was a limited number of people using the radio on that freq at that time that could see the aircraft and respond in that way.

Or perhaps one of the Fire/Rescue folks that saw there was no fire, then backed down for some reason?? It probably wasn't a tower person, they were already part of the conversation with the pilot and they too wanted to know who the unknown person was.

Interesting that the unknown voice didn't speak anymore after the request to identify himself. Makes me think it was someone that decided they didn't want to interject themselves into the situation.

Looking forward to hearing how Allegiant management spins this. They probably will say he did it as a pro-union thing, something to encourage management to agree to contract, etc.

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Old 11-13-2015 | 06:25 AM
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I wonder what the cost of an evac is compared to a JT8D blowing up.
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Old 11-13-2015 | 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes
I wonder what the cost of an evac is compared to a JT8D blowing up.
Servicing and repacking the emerg slides has a high cost, someone said it was about $25k per slide, plus the plane is out of service until the slides are replaced. They might have some spare slides they can quickly install, but if it is like the other spare parts then not likely. So parking that plane for several days is costly.

But having a engine blast apart with flames is ugly on the news, everyone has a camera nowadays, so social media would take it to the max exposure. And I think I read good replacement engines are several hundred thousand dollars but my memory on that isn't sure.
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