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Old 11-13-2015 | 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by navigatro
Who was calling them on the radio, telling them (the crew) to hold off on the evacuation?
One of the articles alludes to the possibility of that being revealed in the lawsuit.
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Old 11-13-2015 | 07:09 AM
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I think one thing that is lost in all this is you can have deadly smoke without any indication of a fire. Whether through asphyxiation or chemicals, it can kill just the same.

Decisions are made only with the available information on hand at the moment.

The company reaction according to the news report seems to emphasize that there were people hurt during the evacuation (a given). I wonder what alternative they were suggesting given the possible deadly fumes present on board.
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Old 11-13-2015 | 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by BFMthisA10
...wait, WHAT?
20 emergency aborts/lndgs by an airline the size of ALG is quite a bit.

Where is the FAA on this shietz? Why do we pay a boot full of taxes to have an FAA who just sits by and waits for an ALG jet to have a mechanical so bad that their crews can't save the day?

Then everyone will say.... well we could see it coming, ALG will go the way of Valuejet, the FAA will act surprised by what they find, the NTSB will say it was preventable, and all the remaining companies in the industry will feel the heat of overburdensome regulation all the while the AGL mgmt will walk away millionaires x 100 and their employees (the ones who aren't killed in an incident) will be looking for work.
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Old 11-13-2015 | 07:12 AM
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This place is unfit to hold a Part 121 certificate.
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Old 11-13-2015 | 07:13 AM
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NBC, Wall Street Journal, Good Morning America, that place can't seem to stay off the news wires! Years of REALLY bad management and cutting corners, all out war with its pilots. Chickens are finally coming home to roost. At least the media is paying attention, the FAA isn't.
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Old 11-13-2015 | 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by BFMthisA10
...wait, WHAT?
One of Allegiant's emergency landings this year was conducted by two management pilots who ran the airplane out of fuel because they didn't read the NOTAM about a closed airport!

Did THEY get fired???
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Old 11-13-2015 | 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by dawgdriver
NBC, Wall Street Journal, Good Morning America, that place can't seem to stay off the news wires! Years of REALLY bad management and cutting corners, all out war with its pilots. Chickens are finally coming home to roost. At least the media is paying attention, the FAA isn't.
And yet, there are still people on here asking about HIRING!!! YCMTSU
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Old 11-13-2015 | 07:38 AM
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Airline management for years has been trying to erode and downright eliminate PIC authority. Captains have to make decisions based on the information available and sometimes in a split second. The desk monkeys in management have all weekend to go through all the manuals, call the FAA, call P&W/GE, call Boeing/Airbus, or whoever and then play Monday morning quarterback. I don't think Allegiant wants this in front of a jury.
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Old 11-13-2015 | 07:59 AM
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I truly hope this guy gets some justice on this one. I think everyone here would, or should make the exact same decision he did. I agree with a poster above, Allegiant is probably going to settle this quickly. Also, the FAA is doing a poor job on the their part. If this gets to a court room though, maybe that would generate enough exposure to put a fire up the Feds a$$.
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Old 11-13-2015 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by dawgdriver
NBC, Wall Street Journal, Good Morning America, that place can't seem to stay off the news wires! Years of REALLY bad management and cutting corners, all out war with its pilots. Chickens are finally coming home to roost. At least the media is paying attention, the FAA isn't.
Sad thing is, people are still lined up to fly on our airplanes despite all the negative media attention!
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