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11-02-2020, 09:51 AM
#6281
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Originally Posted by tom11011
On what authority do you do a national mask mandate? Martial Law?
11-02-2020, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by trvsmrtn
Nothing so drastic. It would be done much the way that the states and local governments do it now, put the mandate in place and police have the authority to issue civil infractions if necessary. The mask mandate isn’t about forcing people to wear masks, it’s more about giving support to businesses, schools or any area where people congregate if those places want to require masks. There will still be many people who don’t wear the masks because they think it’s all fake, or they think they’re bulletproof, or they think it is a violation of their civil liberties, and that’s fine, but when businesses and schools are able to bar them from entry with the backing of an executive order, then it will hopefully keep more people safe.
11-02-2020, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by tom11011
So Congress would pass a bill that the President signs? Or Executive Orders? Or a violation of a federal regulation (like FARs)? Serious question, just trying to figure out how it works. How do you appeal?
Or, they (either Congress or POTUS) could also use something like federal highway money to basically extort states into compliance, similar to how the feds have used it to force states to make 21 the legal drinking age.
As far as how you appeal, I would guess it depends on how it’s done. To be honest, if a business like Walmart wants to bar you from entry for not wearing a mask, that’s their right, and they shouldn’t need the backing of an executive order to do it.
11-02-2020, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by trvsmrtn
Do you have a link to this research?
https://www.healthaffairs.org/doi/10...aff.2020.00818
Saw the 2% quoted in an article somewhere but I think this is the study they’re referencing.
Businesses are already able to restrict access to anyone they deem fit (ie airlines). No federal mask mandate necessary for that.
11-02-2020, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by GoFaster
https://www.healthaffairs.org/doi/10...aff.2020.00818
Saw the 2% quoted in an article somewhere but I think this is the study they’re referencing.
Businesses are already able to restrict access to anyone they deem fit (ie airlines). No federal mask mandate necessary for that.
Saw the 2% quoted in an article somewhere but I think this is the study they’re referencing.
Businesses are already able to restrict access to anyone they deem fit (ie airlines). No federal mask mandate necessary for that.
My comment regarding businesses was about to segue to something else, but I decided to just leave it.
11-02-2020, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by trvsmrtn
Like I said, it could be more of a symbolic, advisory gesture to further encourage the use of masks in all public places, or they could try to force states to require masks in all public places. This is all just speculation on my part. My point in all of it is that I think a mask mandate would be the most extreme measure you would see regarding stopping the spread from Biden.
My comment regarding businesses was about to segue to something else, but I decided to just leave it.
My comment regarding businesses was about to segue to something else, but I decided to just leave it.
11-02-2020, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by GoFaster
https://www.healthaffairs.org/doi/10...aff.2020.00818
Saw the 2% quoted in an article somewhere but I think this is the study they’re referencing.
Businesses are already able to restrict access to anyone they deem fit (ie airlines). No federal mask mandate necessary for that.
Saw the 2% quoted in an article somewhere but I think this is the study they’re referencing.
Businesses are already able to restrict access to anyone they deem fit (ie airlines). No federal mask mandate necessary for that.
“The main model estimates suggested that because of these mandates, 230,000–450,000 cases may have been averted by May 22.”
Did you read the article or just look at the pictures? If that many cases were averted by May 22, imagine what the number is by now.
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