Avg Calendar Day, LOS approved
01-15-2018, 06:17 AM
#241
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Originally Posted by mainlineAF
lolz the internets fear mongering has taken off.
Why is stating facts fear mongering? This agreement is flawed. This agreement has give backs in a time where we should be giving nothing back. Defend yourself sir. Why is this such a great deal? When did an interest in making sure we get the best deal or at least a good deal become fear mongering? I would rather have no deal than a bad deal and this is a bad deal!
01-15-2018, 06:29 AM
#243
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Originally Posted by EMBFlyer
I think it's more of the mindset that Bob is way smarter than anyone, especially a new hire. And if you don't believe that, just ask him.
And by new hire, I mean anyone hired after 1989.
And by new hire, I mean anyone hired after 1989.
They are always blind sided by the Company and last minute offers without having ALREADY WEIGHED POSSIBLE OPTIONS! What can we work with the Company in the future and what do we have now? Wheres the improvement and wheres the trade off?
This is something that fails union mentality. Plus we're so fractionalized its hard to point where to start.
01-15-2018, 06:41 AM
#244
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Originally Posted by jcountry
I'm not sure that the lack of implementation schedule is fear mongering.
The company will not implement min day, when the penalty is so much cheaper.
The company will not implement min day, when the penalty is so much cheaper.
It comes down to trust and I just don’t have it.
To each his own, but after much waffling back and forth, personally I’d like to see this get tossed back.
I know most of arguments against the deal are FUD but not one yes voter can show me how they are assured it will be implemented. And that’s my real problem with this. If it was 100% gonna be implemented, I think they would tie it to DOTC/RAS or have a real penalty. Without it, you just have to trust them.
Just my opinion
01-15-2018, 06:42 AM
#245
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Originally Posted by mainlineAF
lolz the internets fear mongering has taken off.
At some point we have to break the cycle of weakness and actually be a union.
No one's on the courthouse steps. There's no reason to give the company anything.
01-15-2018, 06:45 AM
#246
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Originally Posted by AFTrainerGuy
My point too... some can point at what company has done (8%, PS, etc...) and argue they are striving for “culture change” and such. I can point out contract breaches, in-implemented items, “IT issues” etc showing exact opposite.
It comes down to trust and I just don’t have it.
To each his own, but after much waffling back and forth, personally I’d like to see this get tossed back.
I know most of arguments against the deal are FUD but not one yes voter can show me how they are assured it will be implemented. And that’s my real problem with this. If it was 100% gonna be implemented, I think they would tie it to DOTC/RAS or have a real penalty. Without it, you just have to trust them.
Just my opinion
It comes down to trust and I just don’t have it.
To each his own, but after much waffling back and forth, personally I’d like to see this get tossed back.
I know most of arguments against the deal are FUD but not one yes voter can show me how they are assured it will be implemented. And that’s my real problem with this. If it was 100% gonna be implemented, I think they would tie it to DOTC/RAS or have a real penalty. Without it, you just have to trust them.
Just my opinion
We need to take get rid of the "fly it and grieve it" and just stop flying contract violations.
01-15-2018, 07:09 AM
#247
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Originally Posted by Mover
Aren't you <30? You of all people should want to stop giving concessions to the company with such a long career ahead of you.
At some point we have to break the cycle of weakness and actually be a union.
No one's on the courthouse steps. There's no reason to give the company anything.
At some point we have to break the cycle of weakness and actually be a union.
No one's on the courthouse steps. There's no reason to give the company anything.
Not sure what my age has to do with it. But yea I’ve got a long time left here.
I’d rather negotiate to fix these scheduling issues when section 6 comes than try and negotiate LOS/ACD.
01-15-2018, 07:17 AM
#248
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Originally Posted by mainlineAF
lolz the internets fear mongering has taken off.
01-15-2018, 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by mainlineAF
Not sure what my age has to do with it. But yea I’ve got a long time left here.
I’d rather negotiate to fix these scheduling issues when section 6 comes than try and negotiate LOS/ACD.
I’d rather negotiate to fix these scheduling issues when section 6 comes than try and negotiate LOS/ACD.
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