What is DOH
ORD 787 most Junior FO
ORD 787 Line holder FO

 

ORD 787 junior FO line holder - 21 years
Most senior 787 ORD FO - 36 years.
ORD 787 most junior FO - 7 years.
It looks like almost all ORD 787 flying goes through MIA or PHX.

 

most junior line holder is 9 years

 

The most junior line holder with trips on their schedule for the month of January is seniority #8269 with a hire date of 2001.

 

TWA guy. There are 9 year dudes senior to that guy.

 

SLI stuff. I'm not sure what's a better metric. For a significant portion of the seniority list (and the pilot in question) it's 20+ years to hold a WB line. For the third listers it was much faster. When someone asks how long to hold WB CA do we reference the AWA guys who had a much quicker path to WB CA or the LAA pilots who are years behind? It's hard to get a good reference with a seniority list that's a product of multiple mergers. More importantly today's numbers will be meaningless for new hires. The landscape will be much different in 10 years.

An interesting data point for potential new hires interested in ORD widebody flying is that it looks like we are down to one international destination out of Chicago (LHR). Every other trip flies through another base (PHX, MIA). It looks like AA has almost entirely ceded ORD International to UAL.

 

That’s why I referenced it. It’s much more realistic for the future pilots. “New hires” directly follow 3rd listers.

 

I think the big question is whether or not we will still have a ORD 787 base in 9 years? Have they announced any new routes for the summer or fall? It looks like they are down to just one destination (LHR).

 

ORD drops to just LHR in the winter. CDG is Year round except the second half of Jan and feb. Summer flying comes back in March/April. DUB, LHR(4to5 Daily), CDG, BCN, FCO, ATH. Rumor is KRK this summer as well.

 

I wonder if that’s a viable long term business plan? Does UAL drop to one destination during Jan and Feb? Do they have just 6 destinations during peak season? How do we attract big corporate accounts when we disappear during shoulder and low seasons and just cherry pick traffic during peak? I’m sure Znotins has it under control but we sure seem to be tracking a different course than DAL and UAL.