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Old 09-02-2019, 08:55 PM
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There are upset we don't offer them priority on our planes? They work for AA, Delta, United, and I'm sure others.

Meanwhile we wanted priority on AA Eagle flights only. This is asinine. Also super well timed as I start to commute on republic next month. Wonderful.

This should've been hammered out in the contract AA signed with them.
I'm confuse. Does Republic pilots get JS priority over other offline pilots (Delta, jetblue, SWA... ) on an AA mainline flight? If not, then why would you get priority on an AA flight that's operated by Republic over other offline pilots?
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I'm confuse. Does Republic pilots get JS priority over other offline pilots (Delta, jetblue, SWA... ) on an AA mainline flight? If not, then why would you get priority on an AA flight that's operated by Republic over other offline pilots?
We (republic) do not receive any priority over an offline pilot on any AA mainline or any non-republic Eagle flight.
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I'm confuse. Does Republic pilots get JS priority over other offline pilots (Delta, jetblue, SWA... ) on an AA mainline flight? If not, then why would you get priority on an AA flight that's operated by Republic over other offline pilots?
Because it's an AA flight, and I work for AA.
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Originally Posted by Tpinks View Post
We (republic) do not receive any priority over an offline pilot on any AA mainline or any non-republic Eagle flight.
And you should not, as you do not fly for AA exclusively.

AA guys didn't get priority on Republic operated UA flights did we?
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Old 09-02-2019, 11:05 PM
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Because it's an AA flight, and I work for AA.
Fair enough, but why not give Republic priority over other offline (non American Eagle) on an AA mainline flight? Isn’t that how reciprocal JS works? You get the same priority in return? Skywest flies for Delta and United. They get priority over non Delta/DCI or United/UAX pilots, in return Delta and United mainline pilots get priority over SWA, JB, and so on. If I was trying to get a ride on an AA mainline flight, I would have expected to go after a Republic pilot, just like I would expect to go after you on an Eagle flight operated by Republic.

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Old 09-03-2019, 12:23 AM
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Jumpseat wars are definitely not the answer, but I’ll make sure we accommodate every other D6UJ BEFORE a Republic pilot from now on. And just so everyone knows, if these kids list as AAC codes (to gain a higher priority), they are not allowed to occupy a FDJ even if they are eligible and that is the only seat left (it’s classified as a CASS and company travel violation).

Be sure to pass this on to everyone.
Can you please post a reference to this?
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Old 09-03-2019, 03:03 AM
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I see what they are trying to do, they want the jumpseat on Republic flights to not be issued by time of checkin. They know the only way to screw the AA and Eagle pilots over is to give the jumpseat to the D6 pilots even if an AA or Eagle pilot listed before them in terms of time.

I see why they are frustrated, because even while they have and will retain priority over there jumpseat for Republic pilots, they are forced to make a d6 listing. Just an example of AA IT dept making everything more difficult than it needs to be. I mean just about half of AA pilot contract is unimplement due to "IT" issues. I think it is unfortunate that it has to come to this, because it is not the AA or Eagle pilots fault, it is entirely on AA management.

I believe it will be an uphill battle trying to flight with AA over this. They are asking for the jumpseat priority on Republic eagle flights to be processed in a way that does not align with company procedure that is published for the gate agents to follow.


The other thing to consider is that AA still holds another card in their deck. Let's not forget that AA extends non eagle regional carriers (like Republic) priority on their own metal, in the CABIN. I know that Republic pilots do not get priority for cabin seats on Delta and I'm pretty sure you dont get priority for a cabin seat on United(not positive about United though) either. You only get equal priority on those flights. So it is not the worst thing in the world, you could even argue that AA treats them much more fairly. It would be unfortunate for Republic pilots though, if AA amends the policy on cabin seat priority on Republic flights, to remove the priority on own metal, in yet another childish way of 'resiprocating'.

Republic know AA is weak which is why they are picking this battle. They would never smoke anything like this with Delta.
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Old 09-03-2019, 03:39 AM
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Also, per the memo posted at the top of this forum. It asks them to process d6 jumpseat before fdj aa and fdj eagle pilots.

Boy what a smart position on their part. b.c. that essentially makes AA pilots and eagle pilots LAST(for the jumpseat) on a republic operated eagle flight. See next paragraph as to why...

Also, I have tried to make a D6 jumpseat listing on an AA republic flight. It will not let me...which is what effectively makes AA and Eagle pilots Last on republic AA flights.

Geez... first KCM nonsense last week, now this. Life just keeps getting more difficult.

Again, well played by Republic. Just have to hope AA managers dont unilaterally remove cabin seating priority for republic AA flights. I doubt that will happen though, b.c. AA management hates AA and Eagle pilots, so they are probably going to enjoy seeing us suffer even more.
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Old 09-03-2019, 03:46 AM
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This isn't remotely a jumpseat war. This is enforcing a reciprocal agreement.

No one at Republic is asking to be accommodated ahead of an AA or a WO pilot on AA, except on our own metal as is industry standard practice.

What is being asked is that because we are an American Eagle partner, we get priority over other carriers that absolutely don't support AA flying. Any American Eagle pilot, regardless of regional, contributes more to AA's bottom line than an out-of-system jumpseater. Asking to be treated as such for a jumpseat is completely justified.

It's truly unbelievable to me that this would be considered an unreasonable request by anyone at AA, and even more unbelievable that anyone would escalate it to the point of denying a qualified, properly-listed pilot a jumpseat for enforcing a reciprocal agreement.

This is an issue AA has brought on themselves by refusing to allow AAC FDJ. If this were implemented, this problem would completely go away. YX pilots, along with OO and YV pilots, would slot exactly where they should in the pecking order on AA/WO metal: behind all AA and WO pilots, but ahead of a non AA-network pilots.

As it stands, Republic is just enforcing a reciprocal jumpseat agreement. If YX pilots don't get priority over offline employees on mainline metal, then mainline pilots don't get priority over offline employees on YX metal. That is the very definition of reciprocal.
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Old 09-03-2019, 03:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Longhornmaniac8 View Post
This isn't remotely a jumpseat war. This is enforcing a reciprocal agreement.

No one at Republic is asking to be accommodated ahead of an AA or a WO pilot on AA, except on our own metal as is industry standard practice.

What is being asked is that because we are an American Eagle partner, we get priority over other carriers that absolutely don't support AA flying. Any American Eagle pilot, regardless of regional, contributes more to AA's bottom line than an out-of-system jumpseater. Asking to be treated as such for a jumpseat is completely justified.

It's truly unbelievable to me that this would be considered an unreasonable request by anyone at AA, and even more unbelievable that anyone would escalate it to the point of denying a qualified, properly-listed pilot a jumpseat for enforcing a reciprocal agreement.

This is an issue AA has brought on themselves by refusing to allow AAC FDJ. If this were implemented, this problem would completely go away. YX pilots, along with OO and YV pilots, would slot exactly where they should in the pecking order on AA/WO metal: behind all AA and WO pilots, but ahead of a non AA-network pilots.

As it stands, Republic is just enforcing a reciprocal jumpseat agreement. If YX pilots don't get priority over offline employees on mainline metal, then mainline pilots don't get priority over offline employees on YX metal. That is the very definition of reciprocal.
You at least have the ability to list as a D6. Sucks the way AA does it I agree. But AA and wholly owned pilots cant even list for a d6 on an eagle republic flight. Which now means we will go below JetBlue, delta, Alaska, etc, on any republic eagle jumpseat. Even if the jet blue or other carrier pilot checks in 30 prior to push and the AA or eagle pilot has been there for 2 hrs, the AA and Eagle pilot still gets left behind.

Like I said above, well played.
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