The AA Flow-Thru Agreements MUST END
11-29-2019, 11:09 AM
#221
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Originally Posted by R57 relay
Have you noticed how many odd balls there are around here that were hired at American, US Air, US Airways, America West, Eastern, Trump, Reno, TWA, Empire...did I leave anyone out? (Piedmont didn't hire any odd balls 
).
There will always be some that slip through. If they cannot fly for AA, they should not be flying for a WO. And for those that slip through, we need to make sure we catch it during initial training and probation.
Do other folks in other industries trash their peers as much as pilots do?
).There will always be some that slip through. If they cannot fly for AA, they should not be flying for a WO. And for those that slip through, we need to make sure we catch it during initial training and probation.
Do other folks in other industries trash their peers as much as pilots do?
01-10-2020, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by TransWorld
Unless another Carl Icahn (TWA) takes over, I don’t see anything like that happening.
01-10-2020, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Varsity
You mean like Doug Parker? He's taken every airline he ever ran through bankruptcy.
01-10-2020, 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Varsity
You mean like Doug Parker? He's taken every airline he ever ran through bankruptcy.
DP and America West. Saving airlines from bankruptcy since 2005.
Also, great to see those hiring numbers! Looks like the fastest way to AA will now Not be to go to PDT Psa or Envoy.
01-11-2020, 02:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Battlinbear
DP and America West. Saving airlines from bankruptcy since 2005.
Also, great to see those hiring numbers! Looks like the fastest way to AA will now Not be to go to PDT Psa or Envoy.
Also, great to see those hiring numbers! Looks like the fastest way to AA will now Not be to go to PDT Psa or Envoy.
That being said I think there is a “window” that is currently open at the moment for civilian off the street hires... Many pilots haven’t even bothered to apply at AA due to the slim to none chance of being hired off the street. So right now if they were to apply and we’re competitive I’d say their chances haven’t been better to be hired for the past several years. Though personally I know of 3 pilots just hired outside our flow at PSA. So even if they aren’t all flows my gut tells me a lot will still be from the wholly owneds.
01-12-2020, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
Nothing much has really changed. The percentage of flows has dropped off a little bit. It’s still the fastest way if you aren’t prior military. The vast majority of those hired off the street will be prior military.
That being said I think there is a “window” that is currently open at the moment for civilian off the street hires... Many pilots haven’t even bothered to apply at AA due to the slim to none chance of being hired off the street. So right now if they were to apply and we’re competitive I’d say their chances haven’t been better to be hired for the past several years. Though personally I know of 3 pilots just hired outside our flow at PSA. So even if they aren’t all flows my gut tells me a lot will still be from the wholly owneds.
That being said I think there is a “window” that is currently open at the moment for civilian off the street hires... Many pilots haven’t even bothered to apply at AA due to the slim to none chance of being hired off the street. So right now if they were to apply and we’re competitive I’d say their chances haven’t been better to be hired for the past several years. Though personally I know of 3 pilots just hired outside our flow at PSA. So even if they aren’t all flows my gut tells me a lot will still be from the wholly owneds.
Agreed
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01-12-2020, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
Nothing much has really changed. The percentage of flows has dropped off a little bit. It’s still the fastest way if you aren’t prior military. The vast majority of those hired off the street will be prior military.
That being said I think there is a “window” that is currently open at the moment for civilian off the street hires... Many pilots haven’t even bothered to apply at AA due to the slim to none chance of being hired off the street. So right now if they were to apply and we’re competitive I’d say their chances haven’t been better to be hired for the past several years. Though personally I know of 3 pilots just hired outside our flow at PSA. So even if they aren’t all flows my gut tells me a lot will still be from the wholly owneds.
That being said I think there is a “window” that is currently open at the moment for civilian off the street hires... Many pilots haven’t even bothered to apply at AA due to the slim to none chance of being hired off the street. So right now if they were to apply and we’re competitive I’d say their chances haven’t been better to be hired for the past several years. Though personally I know of 3 pilots just hired outside our flow at PSA. So even if they aren’t all flows my gut tells me a lot will still be from the wholly owneds.
01-12-2020, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by AboveAndBeyond
Yes. Quite a few from PSA getting hired outside of the flow at AA right now.
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