Originally Posted by sanicom3205 (Post 3114991)

I don’t understand why we can’t even know how many people even bid for mitigation options

Originally Posted by wiz5422 (Post 3115033)

That is because the company and the union have to fudge the numbers so BOTH look good coming out of this mess.

Originally Posted by sanicom3205 (Post 3112900)

Might as well quit wasting your energy, they never absorb this fact. I honestly don’t feel one way or another about the guy yet but the facts are the facts.

I think everyone would benefit from taking a step back for a couple days. We don’t know what management is thinking. We don’t know what APA is thinking as NDAs have been signed. We don’t know if there will be furloughs. We don’t know if these LOAs saved any jobs or killed any jobs — that leaves us knowing, well, pretty much nothing.

I am neither defending nor denouncing the actions of the union or the company. I will know enough to do so probably by tomorrow or the next day. At that point I will pass judgement, but not before then.

We should exercise some sound judgement and not publicly castigate the union we are members of, letting the company know how divided some of you are before the die is even cast. Many questions will be answered in the next 24-48 hours. Trust me, you can wait.

Originally Posted by sanicom3205 (Post 3115748)

Please allow me to be the first to say, WTF APA

We were overstaffed by 1600 according to company predictions. We bid for reduced schedules etc to mitigate furloughs.
We furlough 1600 anyway. Seriously, every single member of the BOD needs to be sent packing.